obama says he could have beaten Trump.

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  1. Deno

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's always about him.
     
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    History has shown that usually the candidate with the highest approval or favorable rating wins. looking at this if Obama ran against Trump he probably would have won. But he didn't, so no one knows for certain. Look at past elections and winners using favorable ratings, thanks to Gallup,

    2016 actual Clinton 41%, Trump 38% Clinton won the popular vote by close to 3 million, although she lost the electoral college.
    2016 hypothetical Obama 54%, Trump 38% Unknown
    2012 Obama 55%, Romney 50% Obama by 5 million votes
    2008 Obama 61%, McCain 57%, Obama by 8 million votes
    2004 Bush 53%, Kerry 51% Bush by 3 million votes
    2000 Bush 58%, Gore 55% Gore won the popular vote by 500,000, but lost the electoral college
    1996 Clinton 56%, Dole 51% Clinton by 8 million votes
    1992 Clinton 51%, Bush 46% Clinton by 6 million votes

    Obama, McCain Two of the Best-Liked Candidates | Gallup

    This election was decided in my opinion by the anti vote, by the hold your knows and vote for the candidate one hates the least. Exit polls show that 55% of all those who voted for Donald Trump, voted for him because they were anti-Clinton, against her and wanted her to lose. Not that they wanted Trump to win, any Tom, Dick or Harry on the Republican side would have done.

    I would say the numbers tend to show Obama would have won, but this election was so unique, so out of skelter with all previous elections in that 60% or close didn't want Trump nor Hillary. They just didn't want Trump a bit less than Clinton in the states that counted.

    Although the reason one casts his vote really doesn't matter, a vote for someone or against someone counts the same. But looking at the numbers, there would have been a whole lot less anti-Obama votes going to Trump than anti-Clinton votes.
     
  4. Deno

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    It's not so much about who would have won

    as it is about blowing all of the excuses the

    left came up with out of the water.

    obama admitted that hillary was a poor candidate.

    Like we didn't already know this.
     
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    Obama says he would have beaten Trump? So did 16 other Republican candidates and one Democratic candidate. Doesn't really matter now, does it?
     
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    His approval rating is high from his personality, not his policies, which are low.

    Obama's policies and his ultra left wing divisive politics has lost democrats 1030 seats across America, governorship's, state and local, and senate and house seats all have taken a major hit, so this egomaniac is so full of himself, he is like an addict in denial.
     
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    Everyone was supposed to beat Trump. And?? The only thing that matters is that Hillary said there should be peaceful transition and she has orchestrated the most protested election in recent history. It only
    reinforces what a corrupt individual she is. Why hasn't Obama or Hillary made an announcement that these protests are DANGEROUS to the country like she did when she accused Trump of potentially doing exactly what she is doing. Why hasn't Obama called it all embarrassing and disgraceful? Why hasn't Hillary?


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    I do not believe that the Russian attack on our American system caused the landslide but WHY do you guys insist on thanking the Russians, our enemies, for attacking our country, your country ? Do you guys hate America but live youbsome Russia and justblove love your LICE.
     
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    The One has an ego bigger even than his caring, beating liberal heart. He's going to be spouting off at every opportunity for the next 4 years. Guy's going to be harder to get rid of than those global warming cultists.
     
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    Obama said he would have won against Trump?
    Many consider Obama to be little more than a petulant child in a suit. And during his last few weeks in office, he's proving it.
     
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    quoted for truth
     
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    Hillary lost in part on her association to Obama. The man actually quit governing for months while he campaigned for her leading up to her beat down on Nov 8.
    His delusion that he is still popular is based on the same polls that had Hillary winning in a landslide. debunked
     
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    He just might have. I wouldn't have voted for him or Trump but Hillary had far too many character negatives than Obama did. Moreover, the black vote that turned out in record numbers during the Obama elections did not do the same for Trump or Hillary. It's very conceivable the numbers would have turned out again for Obama.
     
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    The back n forth between Trump and Obama is like two 10 year olds arguing whose stick in bigger.
     
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    Obama is saying that even with

    White lash

    Trump cheating and recounts

    And Russia hacking the DNC that exposes CNN giving him debate questions for example

    He would of won. I don't think he is as popular as he thinks he is. If he was, Hillary would of road his coat tails.
     
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    Kind of what I was thinking. Obama as a person and especially a black person might have won against Trump but Obama's policies were what this election was about and on that more meaningful front he got his ass kicked.
     
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    Thanks to all the morons who elected this community organizer... twice... now we have to listen to his open soup hole until he becomes worm food. Just wonderful.
     
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    Sure people think he's a nice guy and like, but polling like "is the country moving in the right direction" have continually fallen on him and across the country the Democrats have been losing political power.

    Would he have been re elected, hardly.
     
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    Do you think this is the first time foreign powers have hacked emails of entities in this country. What should make everyone mad is the fact that as Secretary of State Clinton tried to run her little shadow communications system and exposed ALL of her top level classified and even her day to day official business to those hacks which IMO enable the Russians and other foreign powers to run circles around the Obama administration and endanger our national security.
     
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    Schoolyard banter... what do the dems have left to argue about. Merely a measure of Obama's ego. And then again, Trump just can't shut up sometimes.
     
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    Just adding insult to Hillary's injury.
     
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    More worthless quotes from a failure of a President.

    The adults will take over soon.

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    Thanks for admitting the black vote only would turn out for a black candidate.
     
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    By thinking that Obama could have beaten Trump he would have to forget all about how horrible he was for Democrats in Congress who got creamed while he was president.

    Finally in the last four years people have seen what a complete (*)(*)(*)(*)ing liar the man is in such things as Obamacare. Today about the only thing he could beat is his meat.
     
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    Well, Pax is right. Black turnout dropped IIRC. Just one of the many things that the Fake News Repor - er, I mean "Pollsters" failed to take into account.

    I actually think Obama would have won over Trump had he been able to run. Obviously, he doesn't have the negatives Hilla the Hun had: Many many more scandals, a cheating wenching partner, a dour, frightening personality, a face that looks like it stepped out from Tales of the Crypt, health issues, needing naps every other hour, and a complete inability to run a campaign. I doubt Obama would have made a tenth of the mistakes Hilla made.

    Now, I'm not saying Obama was a saint, he's far from it. But in comparison to Hilla, he sure looks like one.
     
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    You mean you couldn't figure that out yourself? The 2016 voting stats have been out for well over a month now.
     

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