Painting of Cops as Pigs Hung Proudly in US Capitol

The removal of the confederate flags you mentioned, which was because people felt it was about slavery proves it's more than projection. Really think one could post the art I suggested in the Nations capitol?

Really?

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All it proves is that you don't see any significant difference between state Capitols and the Nations capitol, or you do and were trying to be dishonest.

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The removal was not unauthorized, per the linked article on it. It was clearly stated by Duncan that he had authority to remove it. He removed it.

 

The biggest stink was in NC, yes? Or SC. Where Roof murdered 8 or 9 blacks to start a race war. And was in a pic draped with the confederate flag. So, it became more associated with race. Then there's that little thing called the civil war about race and the confederate flag also. But you won't find a post of me screaming to have those flags taken down.

I don't see the difference. They are public buildings.
States own the state capitols. The fed gov't owns the federal capitol. So I see that difference.

 

Is that somehow more valid than people attacking cops and getting shot, and touching off a race war? How many cops have died over the last year or so under this kind of tension? Seems that is ok for the nations Capitol, but actual Confederate states shouldn't fly their old Confederate flag?

Massachusetts for example has the Mayflower as it's state flower, so is appropriate to see it on signage or a flag here on the road or the Capitol. However if one was to see it on the Nations capitol, it makes on think it is Americas choice, when it isn't.

Public Building's and what they display can have a very different significance than a National one.

For some of these "Southern States" you refer to...they were confederate states. it has meaning to them, and is not out of place to see it there. It would be out of place in the Nations Capitol however as it sends more of a National message?

 

I am not dumb enough to believe a piece of artwork is a sign that the entire gov't is supportive of that artwork. Especially when it was a part of a competition.
Can't believe anyone is.

 

Didn't you just make the case that since Roof was seen with a Confederate flag that it would somehow do just that???????

Looks like you are playing Twister at this point.

 

Um no.

 

Absolutely yes, you did. Right here.

That is a statement which says it was removed because of what some people might perceive. It's the exact same thing.


Ok to remove confederate flag due to perceived meaning of some people.... but not ok to remove artwork due to perception by some people??

Who makes these decisions? Are we just pandering to Black people these days? Anything that they might find offensive has to go, anything they might approve of gets a pass????

 

You left out the part of I never said the flag should be removed. I don't speak for others.

 

I realize you weren't calling for it's removal, but it doesn't change that these circumstances are the same. perception of something. in one instance we rushed to remove something...in another we are criticized for removing.

 

I agree perception is reality.
I tend to not make statements for or against any of these type topics, because in reality, it's not personal to me.

Now in one situation, the flag was seen to be denigrating to a race of people, the painting denigrating to law enforcement. Each group has a valid reason for being upset.

 

Um, you realize (probably not) that in fact more people are beaten to death, with hands and feet, than are killed with so-called "assault weapons", right??? Take your bs arguments to someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, you're not going to win with me.

 

I didn't say a word about assault weapons. BS Arguments? When you actually address my arguments maybe you can call them BS, but your deflectionary nonsense has now official been put on blast.

 

Another cop shot and killed in Orlando on the news this morning, lets post more anti police artwork in the Capitol. Really helps.

 

I already put myself "on blast". And my point flew way over your head. You do not have to be armed to be a credible threat of death. You may have heard about a case here in Florida recently where a concealed carrier killed a person who was in the process of beating a police officer to death. I don't know that he wasn't armed, but the only weapons he was using were his fists.

 

Nonsense. Being armed with your fists is enough to merit summary execution? I guess you missed my point; reply with force in like and kind.

 

When you're beating someone to death (or grave bodily injury, a line he had already passed) the use of deadly force is justified. Simply being armed with fists is not enough, clearly, as we are all armed with fists 24x7. Using them in this manner is most certainly enough.

 

The "unrest" built on lies.

 

In Progressiveville, a 5'4" 110 pound female police officer should be expected to use her fists to defend against a 6'5" 250 pound criminal who's beating her to death.

would you at least let her use a baton? stun gun? (both of which are not 'like and kind force' against a violent assailant's fists)

 

I've always had an issue with "perception is reality."

Just because someone percieves water to be dry, doesn't make it so. Just because Heavens Gate perceived there was a spaceship on the Halle-Bopp comet doesn't make it so.

 

It does to them. Why else would the Heaven's gate people kill themselves?
But yes, it doesn't always make it so, but reality is, is if enough people believe something, whether true or not, it does become an issue.

Was the painting hanging on the wall an issue? To LE perhaps, but to the majority of the country, most wouldn't even know it was hanging there.

 

I couldn't care less. But along side this "artistic" expression (which by the way is promoted by government) why isn't there, lets say a confederate flag raised along side this piece? After all, it's just an expression. The hypocrisy of snow flakes is boundless.

 

That probably isn't the job 4 a woman that size

 

oh, my. Do you have a list of career recommendations for women you'd like to share?

 

Not really, but if I am 5' 170lbs I don'the think I should b trying 2 handle someone who 6'5" 250lbs. Just my opinion.

 

I'm sure the 'little ladies' out there appreciate your chivalrous white knighting, but wouldn't her firearm somewhat level the playing field against a large violent thug who could literally kill her with one punch?