Part 35 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea how old the earth is, as a matter of fact no human being does but of course the only one who would know would be our Creator, Almighty God.

    As for man coexisting with the dinosaurs, well If the Bible is interpreted literally, a young earth interpretation will result, and the idea that dinosaurs and man coexisted can be accepted.
     
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    No one could possibly believe in in young earth theory.. It flies in the face of all science.
     
  3. Mitt Ryan

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    How so is the premise of this thread pretty extreme?
     
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    What is the evidence that scientists use to theorize that the Universe is about 13.75 billion years old? Please be specific.

    What is the evidence that scientists use to theorize that the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old? Please be specific.

    Do these scientists have an "idea" of how old the Earth is?

    Then a literal interpretation of the Bible does not comport with reality.

    What is the evidence that scientists use to demonstrate that dinosaurs lived between 225 million and 65 million years ago? Please be specific.
     
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    You skipped this part

    I'm sure it was just an oversight.
     
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    I asked JB, quite a while ago, how someone could have accurately written down all the ~2500 words of the Sermon on the Mount. He replied it's just like everyone can remember the lyrics to Elvis songs.

    That's when I stopped discussing with JB.
     
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    Well the Jews do believe in that because they count their years from it. And it's the year 5777 for them.
     
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    Go read your scrolls. I'll read my books.
     
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    If you can't show it, you don't know it.

    You can show it can't you?
     
  10. Johnny Brady

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    Whoa mate! Atheists say the Bible has been edited and tidied up over the centuries to make it look good, but now you're saying it's still full of errors! Wish atheists would make up their minds..;)
    By the way, your posts are getting longer and longer, so watch out-
    "The more the words,the less the meaning,and how does that profit anyone?" (Ecc 6:11)
    My own preferred debating style is to precisely and surgically present and deal with one or two points at a time with carefully-aimed sniper fire..:)
    As a great prophet once said-
    "This is this!"
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    Would one of those books be The Odyssey? Perhaps you already read it in high school.



    You said books didn't exist 2000 years ago.

    I asked, three times, why you believe that The Iliad and The Odyssey and The Art of War should not be considered books. Your flip responses do nothing to support your ridiculous notion that books didn't exist 2000 years ago.
     
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    None of us can remember that amount of detail because it's as if the human memory only stores bits that it considers are worth remembering.
    For example I can clearly remember when I was about 8 years old how an awful stink filled the classroom after AlanErskine sh(-)(-) himself in class, gosh we loved that kid..:)
    PS- The earliest memory I have is from when I was 3 years old, I can still see in my minds eye my mother breastfeeding my baby sister while outside the window it's snowing..:)
     
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    Apart from Elvis it's the same with Shakespeare, as we can quote chunks from his plays by memory, for example-
    CAESAR (Stabbed and staggering)- "Help me Brutus, my true and loyal friend!"
    BRUTUS- "F(-)(-)(-) you Jack!" (stabs him)
    CAESAR- "Aargh you mother, I thought you was my mate!"
     
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    Strange. My Hebrew/English Bible tells me it says 'Seeing there be many things that increase vanity, what is man the better?' The passage is talking about the vanity of man - to be precise, the vanity of riches.

    And who cares what atheists say. Study the Bible against ancient History, culture and religion and it's clearly faulty.
     
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    Only if you've studied it. And, as far as I know, Shorthand or recording devices weren't around.
     
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    But what if it's the historians who are faulty?..;)
    For example they were saying for centuries that Nazareth never existed in Jesus's time until digs left them red-faced..:)

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    They don't. Most agree with Maimonedes that where Science and the Torah disagreed it was because either science was wrong or the Torah misinterpreted. Where science proved its point it should be accepted.

    There are differing views on how to read the Torah and creation story.
     
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    So what? Jesus went on the road repeating the same message for 3 years, that's a lot of gigs and it stuck in people's memories, especially the disciples who heard it time and time again..:)

    "Jesus went through all the towns and villages" (Matt 9:35)
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    Preacher Brady cheats again by using a strawman fallacy.
     
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    Your site simply says they found a house in Nazareth.


    .Nazareth has been mentioned many times in History since Jesus, as being in existence and visited by various people. Early church fathers mention it. Sextus Africanus mentions it. There's a Marble Tablet from around 300CE that mentions it. It's mentioned in 570, Jerome mentions it in the fifth century. , A Crusader captured some of Palestine and made his capital in Nazareth. Under the Moslems it varied from a small poor village to a large town - depending on the Moslem ruler of the time. Napoleon captured it when he temporarily invaded Palestine.

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    I see. He preached from notes.
     
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    1- The site says they found a house in Nazareth dating back to Jesus's time.
    That proves Nazareth existed in Jesus's time, whereas atheists used to say it didn't..:)
    2- Who preached from notes, Jesus? Nah, God told him what to say and he simply went out and said it..:)
    Jesus said - "For I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak" (John 12:49)

    PS- I hope I didn't sound too rude earlier when I said one of your posts was too long for me to answer each point in detail. It's just that I don't have the time to answer every single point in peoples long posts individually, apart from one or two points.
    For example I got on the computer at 12:30pm today and started replying to peoples posts and I'm still at it over 4 hours later and I'm dying for a break to have a cup of tea..:)
     
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    No problem.
     
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    Where did God say he was going to write a NT?

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    Paul persecuted christians. People shouldn't listen to his words. They are meant to deceive.
     
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    No they weren't. At least if one believes those who study biblical history.
     
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    1- God said to JC- "Okay kiddo, it's showtime!", and sent him to deliver the New T..:)
    Below- Jesus dramatically begins his mission in his local synagogue by quoting Isaiah's prophecy about himself-
    “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim deliverance to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to release the oppressed.." (Luke 4:17/18 )
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    2- Yes, at first Saul was a bounty hunter on the payroll of the snooty priests rounding up Christians for trial and punishment, but he later changed his name to Paul and became a Christian himself..:)
     
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