Accepting Trump’s Presidency

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  1. ChiefSeattle

    ChiefSeattle New Member

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    Already done that dozens of times on this very forum. Go back through my history. I've already proved the election was stolen.
     
  2. Arjay51

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    Convenient for you, to claim who we are talking about and forgiving the same behavior in ones that they support. That is called stupidity and bias.

    As for Obama, what would you call reducing the size of the military, reducing their pay and taking shots at them at every opportunity? He was hated by the military because he did not have their backs. To me, that spells traitor.

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    If you actually had proved it, where is the legal action? Or did you only "prove" it to yourself? That seems to be all that is required for views such as yours.
     
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    Can't defend trump without crying about Obama or Hillary, can you? Figures.

    Did you serve? I have my doubts because you wouldn't be arrogant enough to speak for the entire military. Also, they've gotten pay increases every year Obama was in office. Joining the military has never been a way to get rich. You use the word traitor to describe someone who doesn't waste trillions on military spending? Give me a break.
     
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    Read and be educated. Or stay ignorant on the subject. Your choice.
    https://www.navycs.com/charts/

    I bet your're looking forward to wasting trillions on frivolous military spending. Donny is such an insecure draft dodger that he'll spend his whole term trying to convince everyone he's tough. He's nothing but a coward.
     
  6. Borat

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    When members of the party of Bill Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama accuse others of draft-dodging, it's a sure sign that the meltdown still has long ways to go before it reaches the acceptance stage(which is the topic of this thread ) :roflol:
     
  7. LiveUninhibited

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    I accept that the presidency is now a bad joke, like a developmentally delayed gorilla with a cell phone. The best we can hope for is we get a good laugh out of it and nobody gets hurt. But given that the gorilla is actually the president, it's likely to be ugly.
     
  8. Arjay51

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    Learn what you are talking about prior to preaching. A minimal increase, not even cost of living, is not a raise it is an insult.

    Just ask all the recipients of social security who have gotten squat over the Obama years.

    I also noticed tht you ignored the rest of the post, perhaps because it exposed your bigotry and lack of thought on the subject.
     
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    You can throw your little temper tantrum until you're blue in the face and it won't make a damn worth of difference.

    He is the president and he will do what he and his supporters want him to do over the next eight years:

    ultra conservative supreme court justices and other court judges............check
    remove all the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) epa regs and ignore the climate change hoax..............check
    build the wall.................check
    english only white house website and gov docs...................check
    pull out of the UN....................check
    get rid of the ridiculous transgender bathrooms in our schools................check
    build the keystone pipeline.................check
    kill isis........................check
    get the fed govt out of local education............check
    negotiate trade deals that actually benefit americans...................check


    What will you be doing the next eight years...............oh yeah, spending all your time online complaining like a whiny little b1tch!
     
  10. cupAsoup

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    It's a raise. How much fluctuates with circumstances at the time. Don't be sour because you were proven wrong. Also, many Americans don't even get that minimal amount. Being in the military has never been a get rich quick scheme, the real money is in the benefits (housing, healthcare for your entire family, food, free school for your children).

    Your right wing overlords would love nothing more than to gut social security or even end it. Comparing small cola increases to what the right would like to do is just laughable.
     
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    Another deflection. You're going to have to actually defend Trump at some point.
     
  12. One Mind

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    Can you trust him on those issues you listed? Well, have you ever been able to trust what a person running for president promised in his campaign? Most people who paid attention would say a resounding NO.

    Yet trump has already kept some of his promises. And he hit the ground doing that. It has shocked people like me who actually pays attention. So, never trust a politician until he proves he will keep his word. So far trump has kept it better than anyone in the last 40 years. That should mean something, but it means nothing to the Hillary people and most dems.
    Trump is a flawed human being like we all are. Unlike your general politician he has not learned double speak, where they can talk for an hour and never say anything meaningful, so that when they leave you wonder if they said anything. Trump not only does not do this, but when he tells you something he isn't marching to some rules of PC. And this upsets the safe space crowd.

    So far, and I did not vote for him, he has kept more promises than any other president in recent history. Personally I think this will continue, for unlike most presidents trump means what he says, and is gonna work like hell to make this nation great again. And no, for the average guy America is not great. It is not the America of the past where hard labor earned a man a living wage. Slave labor globalization has taken much of that away. Open borders has taken some of that away. Like millions of people who have asked, "what in the hell is going on here?" , trump has been asking that question since the 1990s. And he is gonna try to do something about it, where Obama and the rest just did not give a (*)(*)(*)(*), and only worked to pay back the elites who financed their campaigns. Trump owes very little to anyone but his supporters. Which is HOW this nation is supposed to work. Yet it has worked like an organized crime family for decades, and yet the left calls trump dishonest? The absurdity of it is sickening to me and many others.

    The last thing you want to tell trump is he cannot do something. I can put up with his character flaws if he works to make America great again. By that I mean, not great for the top 1/10th of one percent, but great for the average person, who has been totally ignored since Bush Sr, if not earlier.
     
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    1. I never will that wall in south border.

    2. I wants that economic Trade in the Pacific.

    3. Or perhaps new president all ready.

    The new president are Rubio or Mrs. Clinton.
     
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    Pointing out that the party of draft dodgers, America- haters, flag burners and ultra leftist radicals of all stripes is in no position to throw stones and act as a prosecutor of others on matters of patriotism is an absolutely undeniable fact that you can't even begin to dispute.
     
  15. Arjay51

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    How deep is your head in the butts of the democrats? You seem to only repeat the lies that they told you.

    The "real money" as you call it has been systematically decreased under your lord Obama. Have you ever even seen these "benefits" you claim are so great? Trust the people who receive them, they are not.

    If you actually paid attention instead of just repeating dem talking points, you would realize that it is the democrats, especially under Obama, who tried to do away with social security. They seem to prefer just paying people to be a drain on society instead of refunding monies that they taxed actual workers on for years as promised by the law. The real law, not the democrats version of it.

    The only thing really laughable is that you blindly believe what your overlords have told you. Good little sheep.
     
  16. Ole Ole

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    I know that wall is build after will be first female president these Mi.Obama or Warren next to 2020. This I want or all ready Rubio or Mrs. Clinton in early 2017.

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    First female with Clinton well ?
     
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    Three posential females new president in America's. :thumbsup:
     
  18. One Mind

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    Clearly you are not to snuff on construction and how it works. Which of course underlies the ignorance based attacks on trump not paying contractors. Any contractor not paid, and there are legit legal reasons for not paying, linked to specified materials or the quality of the work itself, has legal recourse. If the claim of the builder is legit, the contractor loses. If his claim is not legit he gets all of his money. So no, the way the world actually works is that contractors get paid unless here is a legal reason not to pay them. So this is just more fake news, which fools the people who have no problem in being fooled when it helps their primitive tribalism.

    Hillary and her cohorts were above our laws. But trump never has been, for he would have to be a part of the globalist scheme to create greater income and wealth disparity in order to be above our laws. So enough of the rubbish.
     
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    A reality check is all of the defense trump needs, and what better person to do this than Dr. Roberts, who along with a horde of other patriotic americans, all very honest and credible men, all holding positions in gov't in the past, and all who know what our reality actually is, as opposed to the contrived reality that has rendered Hillary people brain dead. The MSM reality, the rich elite fabricated reality, which has allowed this treason to continue for decades.

    You will not be able to rationally refute much of what Dr. Roberts is telling us, which is why MSM is in blackout over such men, and there are many.

    [video]https://youtu.be/hNj3nKoWUIk[/video]

    Of course if you were to believe Roberts, it would of course make you realize you are a chump, ignorant, disconnected from reality, and egos, most of them, will never admit they were played, due to their own inability to be rational, logical, with good reasoning abilities. So of course the fact of the matter would have to be rejected, for it would reveal the utter stupidity that tribalism depends upon, you no one wants to be that damned stupid. But, they are, and there is no cure for it, due to the nature of the human ego.

    I have little patience with the stupid, brainwashed, consent manufactured members of either tribe. For the truth is out there, and they reject it in their tribalism. Which makes them play into the hands of the men who really have been running this nation. The same kind of men FDR went to war with and won. And trump is at war with them now, and democrats, the voters, are too consumed with tribalism to be capable of discerning reality, discerning what is actually going on as the corruption is fighting trump, and the democrats are helping them. Out of ignorance and basic stupidity.
     
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    Are you getting tired of all this dodging? We get it, you're threatened by liberals. Eventually, you're going to have to defend that orange monstrosity in the white house.
     
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    If liberals accepted Trump's presidency what would SNL and the other late night shows do for material? They couldn't exist without a Trump or Bush to ridicule and demonize.
     
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    I saw them first hand when I was in the Army. The military has never been a way to make yourself wealthy. The job pays crap. However, if your job now was to give you free housing, completely free health care, and allowance for food, you'd be making a lot more in real terms. Bottom line is that their pay was increased. Not as much as previous years, but their pay was still increased. A smaller increase is not a decrease. Perhaps you needed that explained to you. We have a volunteer force. If you think you're going to come out of it rich, you're not very bright and joining for the wrong reasons.


    Source? I'm not some idiot at a trump rally willing to bite on your alternate facts. Which democrats tried to do away with social security? I eagerly await your answer. Although, I suspect your just not going to admit being wrong and making things up like military pay. Please, continue to embarrass yourself.
     
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    You really need to get a new source of information for you misstatements. A raise that does not match the cost of living is not a raise. In fact, it puts the individual more in debt than they already were.

    As for which democrats, Obama and his entire team. I suspect that you will try to deny this but it is a fact. These "alternative" facts seem to be yours because you refuse to confront reality.

    The only one who is embarrassing himself would be you. Grow up and admit it.
     
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    The real point here is not what Americans dislike about Trump, right now the reality is what is he going to do for America and it's citizens. If he does a good job with the economy, if he does a good job restricting illegal immigration, if he does a good job strengthening the military, if he does a good job in foreign affairs, people will forget about his short comings and quite frankly all Americans should hope for that.
     
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    Lol dude, i am not threatened when the party of draft dodgers, america haters, flag burners bring up the issue of draft dodging, the lib/prog knack for shooting self in the foot and picking a losing issue to harp about is second to none lol.

    What's even more funny is that not only Clinton and Sanders are prominent lib draft dodgers, but that when Trump did it, he himself was a liberal democrat :D
     

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