Accepting Trump’s Presidency

We liberals actually accept that Trump won the presidency. He did not win the popular vote. He did not have the biggest inaugural turnout in history. There wete not 3 to 5 million illegal votes. And his weiner is not bigger than a gerkin. We liberals are just concerned about proven facts.

 

Yet Trump is still President of the U.S. Will you acknowledge that and will you, like most non-Obama voters did, adopt a 'wait and see' attitude?

 

PLENTY of generals get 50k per year, untaxed for retirment, for life. even E8 and E9 sergeants come out of the military doing REALLY well, dude. Many officers have cushy jobs waiting when they retire. They serve as consultants and lobbists. Often, those jobs are to re-pay them for screwing the US taxpayer by helping some corporation get federal contracts. Don's going to get rid of 30 million illegals and then the Dems will never win again.

 

^^^ Monkey see monkey do. How many contractors have you stiffed Mr. Expert?

And Trumps not? So him groping women is ok? Him starting a "fake" university to line his pockets is ok? Don't give me any of YOUR BS RUBBISH.

 

funny, as Trump dodged the draft.

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funny again, as Trump dodged the draft.

 

Funny that the party of draft dodgers, America haters, flag burners, terrorist sympathizers is bleating about this when their two candidates during this campaign were a draft dodger Sanders and a draft dodger's wife Hillary. Lest we forget that Trump was also a liberal democrat during the Vietnam war.

 

Well said.

Trump is a bully. A sicko. He's already an international laughingstock. Deservedly so.

 

Duck, the Trump tornado is blowing through .

 

Maybe when you learn to become concerned with results, the other stuff will become irrelevant noise. That's certainly the way it is for conservatives.

 

Trump is still a liberal Democrat.

That's he's playing the role of some faux champion of conservatism to fool a bunch of low information rubes who put him into office is another story. But you are what you are, eh?

 

That certainly explains the libs/progs' hostility and hatred

He is a pragmatist, not even remotely an ideologue and everyone knew that. His America first stance, his views on immigration, jobs, trade deals, "forgotten" americans, "the swamp" got him elected. But keep telling yourself that that was Russia and low information voters till you're blue in the face, I don't mind.

 

Probably about as much as any politician or elected official. For me I am in a wait and see mode. I don't trust Trump at all, am very leery of him. But I didn't trust Clinton either was was very leery of her also. For me the sad part in all this mess was that neither major party offered up a decent candidate. But that was their choice and this is how their choices end up, a President Trump.

But that is what it is or was. Decisions, choices have consequences and we now have to live with the consequences of each major party's choices. For me, I will support Trump when I think he is right, oppose him when I think he is wrong. For now, I will let him get his feet on the ground and sit back, watch, listen and see how he governs and go from there.

 

You need relevant information. You're talking about base pay, or the number that shows up on the pay scale. That is certainly not the only income soldiers have. They get a COLA some get BAS, some get BAQ. Being married also adds extra pay.

Those increases (in addition to the raise in base pay) are dictated by the currency value if they are not stationed CONUS, not by Obama decree. You just simply cannot admit your assertion is 100% false. You even called it a raise. This is what it's like arguing in the ERA of trump. Facts don't matter, your belief does.

Have the guts to name people who wanted to end social security. Show me where Obama said he wanted to end social security. The voices in your head do not count. You can't provide a link, or a name because that information again is 100% false. You are very plainly lying at this point. Why continue the charade when what you're spouting is demonstrably false? I'd prefer not to embarrass you further, but if you continue to outright lie, i'm going to call you on it.

 

At least you acknowledge this. Your hypocrisy is noted. It's fine when your guy does it. Those on the right even have the stones to call the coward an alpha male. There's never been a thinner skinned, more insecure cry baby of a president in our history.

 

so you admit that Trump was a scumbag draft dodger who got a deferment for "flat feet"?

good man.

 

Yep, 50 years ago all liberal democrats like Bill Clinton, Bernie Sanders and others were scumbags and draft dodgers, I completely agree with you and indeed, Trump suffered from the disease of liberalism as well at the time.

Luckily for the country Trump has since completely recovered and become a brave America first patriot and a winner. Unfortunately the liberals have not changed one iota, they are still America hating, flag burning lunatics led by scumbag, draft dodgers like the Clintons and Sanders and America haters like the Obamas and Keith Ellison.

 

Sure, all liberals were draft dodgers and Trump was a flaming liberal 50 years ago. Trump has changed and become a brave patriot, the liberals are still America hating, flag burning lunatics led by draft dodgers Bill Clinton and Bernie Sanders and America hating Obamas, Keith Ellison and others.

 

Well we waited and in two days he proved to be a total moron. First the nonsense about the inaugural turnout and then the idiocy of the voter fraud, Now will you acknowledge that his two claims are total crap?

 

You mean to tell me that after all the Exec. orders Trump signed in the past couple of days...All you can think about is crowd size and voter fraud? What is wrong with some of you people? Oh yeah...you hate Trump.

 

Great and what reults do you conservative claim to gave achieved?

 

No we just hate lying scum bags.

 

Hmm, you do? "You can keep your doctor and save $2,500".... "I did not have sex with this woman".... "I never had any classified material on my server"....

 

"I will release my tax returns"

"I saw tens of thousands of Muslims in Jersey City celebrating 9-11"

"3-5 million illegal aliens voted against me in California"

"I never met Vladimir Putin"

"I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it"

 

Lol a dialogue with a lib:

-Lib: We hate liars
-Realist: Your party lies to you daily, here is 1000 examples
-Lib: but but but Trump

 

Trump is going to be difficult to accept, simply because he is such a controversial figure. He does however now have the support and loyalty from his congressional Republicans. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/26/14365998/donald-trump-gop

I think what we'll see from Trump is basically what we've seen in these past couple of days.

1. Complete disregard for the environment and there's a real possibility you may have to deal with an environmental disaster 30 to 40 years from now (Keystone and Dakota pipelines)

2. Tariffs, this will be passed on to consumers by companies and will hurt those who rely on cheap products the most, the underprivileged. I believe wealthy Americans might actually do well from a Trump presidency.

3. Trump, his family and associates will make an obscene amount of money out of this presidency

4. The only one that concerns me as a non-American is his latest comments about America hangng on to Iraq's oil and perhaps getting a second chance to do so... hinting at another war.

5. I believe Trumps official attack on China is still to come, although they are much more powerful than Mexico so would be interested to see whether he's going to be as aggressive, especially since China is responsible for far more job losses in the US than Mexico.

6. Trump is going to hand Syria to Putin