Iran tests ballistic missile in defiance of UN resolution, US officials say

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Actually, "frozen" means frozen. The assets are still attached to the owner, the owner just doesn't have access.

    And, "confiscated" means that title has transferred, so the original owner is no longer the owner of record.

    This is a significant difference.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    No, it is YOU who suggested that Trump would create significant trade sanctions against Iran.

    Obama and Kerry did NOT say that the requisite parties would agree on sanctions.

    In fact, they said the requisite parties would refuse to place trade sanctions on Iran.
     
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    Iran has been "six months away" from building a "bomb" for more than 20 years now.
     
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    Trump will kick their ass... if uncle Vladimir says it's okay.
     
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    "US officials say..."

    Now there's a credible group. It's not like the US government has been invading, occupying, and bombing other countries nonstop for decades or anything.
     
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    There is no "title" on a bank account.

    Call it what you want, the US took Irans money and wouldn't give it back, until Obama in all his wisdom gave it back to the biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.
     
  7. WillReadmore

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    When Pakistan got the bomb, the relationship between Pakistan and India became more normalize, NOT more radicalized.

    Your idea that anyone who wants nuclear weapons wants to go to war with them is just plain not supported by history.


    Note that over the last more than a decade the US has had US combat troops at war along the majority of Iran's borders. Plus, we overthrew the Iranian government, and subsequently supported Iraq in its war against Iraq - including WMDs - under Rumsfeld's direction. Under Bush41, we went to war against Iraq in Kuwait, marching along Iran's border. In fact, there were US missiles that hit Iran, because our ability to hit targets at that time was far worse than it is today.

    During the conquest of Iraq under Bush43, Iran made overtures to discuss regional security, noting that we were conducting war on both sides of Iran - the majority of its land borders. Bush told them to pound sand!

    The idea that Iran believes they need nuclear deterrence is firmly rooted in modern history well remembered by Iranians.
     
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    There are people here who do not know that Pres Bush Jr, had our intel to determine if iran had a nuke weapons program going. The conclusion was that iran stopped their program around 01 or 02, can't recall the exact year. What iran did want was the ability to make their own fuel for their one reactor as to be independent from having to buy it. They want more reactors for power, and they want the ability to enrich their own fuel. Not be dependent on another nation for power. Which is reasonable.

    With the inspections and our spooks in full operation, we know they still are closed on their weapons program. Iran wasn't working on one anyways when the 10 year agreement was signed. They got some of their money back we stole in the process. .

    The question is, can iran be trusted? No, but we can act like we trust them as we verify. An Islamic state cannot be trusted with nukes for they think they answer to a higher power, which makes it unacceptable. So, if iran wants to be literally blown back to the stone age, let them resurrect their weapons program. The goal would not be to conquer them, just to remove their infrastructure, requiring decades to rebuild. That at some point in time will have to be conveyed to them, in plain terms. And give them the choice. For one thing is certain. We will never allow a theocracy to have nukes for this is the one form of gov't which is dangerous, given their rewards lies beyond their own deaths. This is the nation whose kids took out mine fields set by Iraq by walking on them. Suicide cult religions cannot have nukes.
     
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    You're forgetting the fact that Iran already is radicalized, has been radicalized, and has been an official state sponsor of terrorism.

    We're going to have to war with Iran don't you see that?

    It was predicted the moment news broke about Obama and his secret deals to support the Iranian nuclear weapons program by pretending they didn't have one.

    And this war will make Iraq/Afgan look like a playground scuffle.

    Contemplate what that means for America.
     
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    Iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

    This is something the world agrees on and it wont be only Americans who call for war.

    The world will have to do something because do you know what happens if they don't?

    Israel will have to nuke Iran.

    Personally I'd rather they actually do that and save us the effort cost and of course the lives.
     
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    Excellently perceptive post. Iran is the main threat to world peace yet the entire stupid western political classes are obsessing about 'Russian aggression'. FFS this is getting scarier by the hour.
     
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    Better do it quick.

    https://www.rt.com/business/375789-iran-dollar-trump-ban/

    Iran to dump the US dollar in response to Trump's travel ban. From RT forum.

    Purple Dice wrote: "Yes China and Russia is working on implementing a gold backed currency, why do you think over the last couple of years they have been buying up all the gold in the market. The end of the US dollar is near"

    Is any of this true?
     
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    sorry, i know you prefer war, but no one wants any nuclear strike. if israel were to do that, then they would start ww3.
     
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    which nuclear power would strike israel to avenge iran?

    under mutually assured destruction, a nuclear power who strikes another nuclear power would face certain destruction.
     
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    A war against Iran is like a war Against Iraq, playing with toys in the sand.
     
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    only the ignorant would think nuclear is the option
     
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    Yep, the Rod of God is a much better option. Kinetic rounds >
     
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    Israel has nuclear bombs, an army of combat drones and etc. Iran will arm themselves because of fear the invasion of Israel and Usa. We all know that Usa is a puppet of Israel. CIA or Mossad will have sink an US aircraft carrier and to blame Iran to start the invasion.
     
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    General Flynn warned Iran today..

    The US and four other allied navies have begun a three-day maritime exercise in international waters next to the Iranian shoreline.The exercise includes navy participants from the UK (which is leading the exercise), France and Australia."The exercise is intended to enhance mutual capabilities, improve tactical proficiency and strengthen partnerships in ensuring the free flow of commerce and freedom of navigation," a US Navy press release said.According to Sputnik News, it is expected that the HMS Daring, the HMS Ocean, and US and French warships will simulate destroying Iranian combat jets, ships and coastal missile launching facilities during the exercise.The exercise comes after a series of brief encounters between US warships in the Gulf and Iranian ships.There were 35 incidents in the first half of 2016, according to the Pentagon, and earlier in January the USS Mahan fired flares and a warning shots on four Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps attack boats as they approached the US Navy ship.The head of the Iranian navy, Rear Adm. Habibollah Sayyari, has warned against any incursion of the participating ships into Iranian territorial waters.But US officials have said there is no plan to enter Iranian territorial waters, according to the military.com news site.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...S-UK-France-Aussie-launch-Gulf-war-games.html
     
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    And then you'll finally get your chance to catch a ride on the Mahdi's back when he flies out of his well. :lol:
     
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    I don't think anything will come of this.. Iran is surely not stupid enough to continue provocations..

    Anyway, I hope not.. Iran is a much bigger country than Iraq.
     
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    Iran is not using those centrifuges to produce reactor grade Uranium.

    They cannot use this process efficiently or even close to cost effective to do that nor can they develop anywhere near the amount of reactor grade uranium needed using this process.

    They are making weapons grade Uranium!!!

    THIS is the reality........the United States will NOT allow Israel to bomb active Iranian Nuclear Facilities.

    If that happened the resulting radioactive dust cloud would poison the entire region!!!

    And as the United States will NOT under any circumstances allow any nation that signed the NPT in order to purchase Nuclear Technology when that nation did not have the capability to develop such tech on their own.....the U.S. will NOT allow Iran a signer of the NPT to develop Nuclear Weapons as if this was to happen......if Iran publicly stated it had developed nukes.......then in that case the United States Military would invade Iran and seize all existing Iranian Nuclear Facilities.

    It is that simple!!

    Israel would want to bomb those facilities and as the U.S. will not allow that the United States would invade Iran.

    AA
     
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    Build a nuke is easy!!!

    It is getting the weapons grade fuel that is hard!!! LOL!!!

    For GOD sakes the type of nuke Iran is building is the circa 1945 U.S. Military Gun Barrel Fission Design!!!

    This design is 72 YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!

    Anyone can Google the damn nuke design!!!!

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    But they are and the IAEA has even reported as much.

    Israel is a sovereign State. Israel can do whatever it wants, but it lacks the assets to effectively bomb Iranian facilities.

    Uh, no it would not, but thanks for the fear-mongering.

    If Israel could bomb those facilities they already would have done so, but Israel cannot, so they won't. It has nothing to do with the US.
     
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    And you know that how, exactly?

    So it's a simple design that Iran would not even need to test. Good for Iran.
     

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