Magnitude of Trump adviser Flynn's Russia scandal gains clarity

IMO, Flynn has to go. He's been compromised. If the Vice President can't trust the National Security Advisor to tell him the truth, he's useless to the administration and dangerous to the country. I'm not sure of the amount of fire, but there sure is lots of smoke.

One of Flynn's appointments, Rob Townley, has been denied a security clearance.

There are several articles out now that the intelligence community isn't giving the administration some information. This is concerning. Check this article published in Jared Kushner's family owned publication, the New York Observer...

 

Again, you're claiming that he was cut off for making fun of Donald Trump's prodding about CNN being fake news. You guys see a conspiracy around every single corner.

 

First of all, he was a nominee for the position, so again this isn't like Dennis Rodman engaging in North Korean concessions.

Secondly, you have no idea what was discussed on the phone, and neither does anyone else except Flynn, the Russian ambassador, and the FBI.

Finally, has anything changed? Where is the effect of this tin-foil hat conspiracy?

I suggest you go re-read what I wrote, especially the part about how it's not unusual that this kind of thing happens.

 

I hate to tell Trump haters but the magnitude of Trump adviser Flynn's Russia scandal is nothing since nobody outside of Trump haters have ever heard of the guy.

 

LOL! It has nothing to do with "conspiracy". It was clearly a reflexive, and very stupid. reaction from the control room. Do you know how TV "news" is put on the air?

 

Yes. It is amazing to watch MSM feed this kind of nonsense to its diminishing audience of true believers. It just further damages what's left of their credibility while not adding any new readers/viewers.

 

Yup, it was "clear" because you automatically assume ill-will from the MSM because of their entrenched establishment interests.

 

The raging remnant of support for the corrupt political class is now trapped in its own feedback loop to the astonished delight of the rest of us.

 

You can't blame them for living it up while the sun still shines. I just wonder if they give any thought what they're going to do when nobody's watching anymore?

 

LOL! Of course, there is ill will - they are part of the corrupt political class. Surely you know that.

 

Carlos Slim and Soros may be able to afford to pay their tab for a while.
Can the entire MSM survive as a branch of this new SS?

 

backtracking from the tax cut assertion

 

As soon as he releases his taxes, I will.

 

Bleeding? They control the Senate, the House, most of the state governorships and most of the state legislators. I don't see that changing anytime soon considering how the democrats are behaving. The only message the democrats have is "we hate Trump" and we saw how far that message went in the last election.

Trump as a candidate was supposed to cost the republicans a lot of seats and maybe the House and Senate. Fake News!

 

I answered your question, just because you don't like my answer doesn't mean I'm backtracking.

 

Yes, almost all of the MSM election coverage was just Fake News. The MSM has been fully exposed.

OTH, that deplorable, hated and derided Los Angeles Times Daily Tracking Poll was spot on!
Harder to fudge the numbers on a daily tracker.

 

I don't think anyone fudged. I just think that when the pollsters called Trump supporters the pollsters where told to f--k off. The pollsters weren't smart enough to realize those were Trump supporters and so didn't count them in their polls.

 

Good point, but the LAT/USC Day Breaker Tracker used the the same rotating sample from start to finish. They had all agreed to take part.

Next time I am sure they will be careful not to select such an accurate representative sample - it screwed up the whole purpose of political polling.

 

Fine, and I think you know what I think of your assertion that the Reagan tax cuts caused the innovation of the 80's

 

I tend to agree but not quite to the throw him in a padded room stage, yet.

I mean seriously, its embarrassing.

with that said I can deal with his poor quality of speech that's pretty easy to set aside, I've always said i like the message just hate the messenger. He's had like 99 chances to knock it off and stop with the stupid personal stuff (nordstrums? seriously?) and move things forward and I wouldn't have an issue with that if he just focused on gov't business, even if I disagree with some of his proposal/idea's. (taxes for example, I disagree)

I honestly don't trust him to hold it together for 24 months and i'll freely admit that it saddens me because if he could have somehow flipped the switch, things could have/can be better. If he hasn't done it by now I have to assume he's incapable of actually learning proper protocol.

 

Reagan had a mean GDP growth rate of over 4%, Obama less than 2%.

 

Isn't this unprecedented? Whatever possessed Flynn to do such a thing?

 

Did you get hit by a piece of falling sky as well?

 

Candidate Obama held discussions with foreign leaders about foreign policy if he were to be elected.

The Trump transition team are employed by the government department of transition an ad hoc department where they work and are paid. Such discussions have been held with all such transition teams as foreign leaders call them and vise versa and calls and future meetings are planned including what the first topics will be.

Why does ANYONE find this out of order.

I DO have a question as to the public statements about the matter but in the end that is entire between Pence and Flynn.

 

The Trump administration repeatedly and publicly denied that Flynn had spoken to Kislyak about sanctions, even enlisting Vice President Mike Pence to back him up in the media. Flynn himself told the Post on Wednesday that he hadn’t talked about sanctions. But the Post spoke to nine former and current US officials with knowledge of the call, which was actually recorded by US intelligence agencies (as all such high-level calls to the Russian ambassador are). Subsequent reporting from other outlets backed the Post up.

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http://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/10/14575456/michael-flynn-phone-call-russia-explained

Now Flynn doesn't remember.