Magnitude of Trump adviser Flynn's Russia scandal gains clarity

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  1. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That video is from 2012 so what's your point?

    Hint: Obama was the POTUS in 2012 when that conversation took place.
     
  2. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did he know at the time that it was Russia who hacked the dangerously insecure server?
     
  3. ecco

    ecco Well-Known Member

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    But it is exactly "what is believed" that is the evidence.

    If Sanders supporters "believed" they were treated badly by the DNC, they would be less likely to go out and vote for Clinton.

    Elections aren't about facts, they are about perception. If you can lower the perception some people have of a candidate, fewer people will vote for that candidate.

    As evidence of beliefs I posted the comments that someone in this very thread made. It is his belief that Sanders supporters stayed home because of the emails posted by wikileaks.

    As a result of those emails the FBI opened an investigation. Then they closed it. But the damage had already been done.



    Does your BOY reference somehow make you feel superior?
     
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  4. ecco

    ecco Well-Known Member

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    Trump won't. But Congress will certainly see them. The Senate Intelligence Committee has already begun its inquiry.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/here-s-how-congress-handling-russia-investigations-n722661

    Tweet...
     
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    ecco Well-Known Member

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    Yep. It comes from the...
    Can't Think.
    Post Link.
    ...school of debating.
     
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    ecco Well-Known Member

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    Oh good. You want to keep discussing this? OK by me. Now, do tell us what proof you posted? Hell, I'll tell what proof you posted: Two links.
    That's the best you could do, post two links. None of your own thoughts or concepts. Just two links.

    Here are THREE links...
    Do they prove anything? Has any proof been posted? If no proof has been posted, there is nothing to deny.
     
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    ecco Well-Known Member

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    What question was Trump answering?
     
  8. Penrod

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    Was one made with Flynn ?
     
  9. Penrod

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    You dont find anything wrong with Obamas remark there ?

    Both sides do it. In fact Hillary did it in 2016 and its not unusual
     
  10. Penrod

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    Who knows if it was Russia, its come to the point where I trust the intelligence services about as much as I do the media. Some there definitely have it in for Trump
     
  11. GraspingforPeace

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    What about the five or so private cyber-security companies that came to the same conclusion as the FBI, DHS, CIA, etc.?
     
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    That Flynn made a deal with the Russians ?
     
  13. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    Your post was in reference to hacking... so, no. I was responding to your uncertainty of the source of the hacking.
     
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    ecco Well-Known Member

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    ecco:
    You posted:
    I asked:
    You told me to look it up!
    Now you state that your comment was based on research that you did before you made that comment because you do things "like a lawyer". OK. Let's test that out.

    When a lawyer makes a statement in Court, does he expect that statement to be blindly accepted? Do Supreme Court justices blindly accept the content of oral arguments? If they ask an attorney to back up a claim, can the attorney just respond: "I looked it up before I came here"? Can the attorney just respond: "You have all the law books at your disposal, you look it up"?

    Bull$hit!
     
  15. Penrod

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    Give me these independent companies

    Besides the election was not hacked
     
  16. GraspingforPeace

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    Did anybody even bring up the electionbeing hacked? ... I don't see it. It's patently absurd how quickly Republicans jumble out the strawman argument parroted by the Republicans and Trump.

    The companies are as follows: Crowdstrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, FireEye, and Mandiant. I think there's one more out there. Now, these are all private competing cyber security firms, meaning they would call out the BS of another competitor if they were blatantly wrong. At least that's how I view it.
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    Well what do you think those representatives are discussing, the positions and viewpoints of the incoming administration versus current policies. Do you think they are trading recipes and grand children? And this has been SHOCK about the mere fact that Flynn had a phone call with a Russian dignitary.
     
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    What question do you think he was answering?
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    Uranium perhaps?
     
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    As Trump pointed out talking to the Russians was part of Flynn's job.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    Well Flynn can just cop the 5th and everyone else can get immunity like during the Obama administration.
     
  22. Ddyad

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    The elections were rigged by by the DNC colluding with the MSM. Many Democrats became aware of it and voted for Trump.

    “Bernie Sanders said the Democratic primary process is a "rigged system" at a campaign event in Evansville, Indiana on Monday. Sanders announced last night at the National Press Club that the Democratic convention will be a contested one.

"When we talk about a rigged system, it's also important to understand how the Democratic Convention works," Sanders said Morning morning. "We have won, at this point, 45 percent of pledged delegates, but we have only earned 7 percent of superdelegates."

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._a_contested_convention_system_is_rigged.html

    Could Clinton have even managed to survive the DP primaries if the "news" media had not leaked the debate questions to her? Probably not.
     
  23. dairyair

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    Flynn was a nothing at the time. Just an ordinary citizen.

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    Perhaps?

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    Yet he was made to quit.
     
  24. dairyair

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    That is the question. Isn't it.

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    Oh my the whole world is against trump. So dramatic.
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    Sorry you can't follow along.
     

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