Clashes in Stockholm Suburb Draw Attention to Trump’s Remarks

No I live in the real world, and have probably seen more violence than you ever will, up close and personal. Now stop worrying about me and produce your data.

 

You're 100% correct.

 

You are right about EU citizens, but wrong about Muslim immigrants being given EU citizenship. Now any news on that data?

 

You think that you live in the real world, but this is all part of the delusion that you are so deeply seated in, where we all live happily and safely together with no threats whatsoever.

 

I am a European citizen and my nation of origin will not bow to any sort of immigration laws that Germany wish to implement. We are locking the gates. Juncker and Merkel can F*** OFF!

 

OK let us summarise your argument this morning.

I am a teenage, trolling, closet Muslim with a time machine who lives in a wonderland and knows nothing of the real world or the price paid for our rights and freedoms.

You describe yourself as a University educated Roman Catholic who has never actually seen a protest, thinks everyone should align with communists and Russian nationalists to wipe out a religion and take the countries oil for compensation.

You have also promised data that you have not produced.

Priceless!

 

No rant then!

 

So what happened last Friday night? Wasn't this on Monday night.

 

Well it seems that you are deluded and are suffering from some sort of deep-seated utopian belief, in which case I can only conclude that in your mind you believe that the only vague threat is communism (very 60s), and apart from that, that we live in paradise.

Please make your position clear, so that we don't have to jump to conclusions thinking that you are some sort of deranged and disconnected person that needs help!

 

Does it matter - it's probably happening every night somewhere in Sweden. Jesus what a mess!

 

Yes I worded that poorly. The data that supports the claim is weak.

The allegation of manipulation of data is something that has come out of Sweden, rather than from the US, and has been around for some time. It indicates a disparity between perception of crime by some people and the data about crime that is being published. An external audit akin to the Rotherham inquiry might be useful. An important finding of that UK inquiry was that sociologists had convinced police officers that their reporting of crime would have been racist. I find the claims coming out of Sweden to seem to mirror this what we heard before the inquiry at Rotherham.

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham

No not evidence, just indication. 60 minutes is a credible source.
As I said, I'm not sufficiently informed to make any judgement, just holding out the possibility that its not all fluffy bunnies over there. I recognise that atmosphere and its not Swedish. There is obviously some discontent with immigration there, and it had slowed from 165,000 to 30,000 in 2016. I believe the Swedish culture would act behind the scenes whilst providing a calm and serene face to the world.

Good. I haven't seen that. Would you please refer me?

 

I have made my position very clear, I want to see the data that shows the "riots" are part of a growing trend. You have called me everything you can and not produced the data. Then you lose it and tell Merkel and Junkers to (*)(*)(*)(*) off!

 

I don't rant. It is you that rant without offering any sort of solution, because you think that we live in Wonderland where there is nothing but peace, harmony and no threats. I shudder to think if you were in charge of protecting the UK.

 

Not quite. Its automatic entitlement to citizenship following a period of permanent residency. This is the same for most EU countries, although the periods vary.
Once citizenship is acquired, they have free movement entitlement in the EU outside Schengen.

Sweden
Acquiring Swedish citizenship usually requires five years of legal residence in normal circumstances, although this drops to four years for refugees or stateless persons, and three years for people married to Swedish nationals
http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog...l-refugees-acquire-full-free-movement-rights/

 

I haven't really called you anything. I have said that if you don't make your position clear, reinforce your point and be sensible, then we can only conclude that your belief is based on a deranged, deluded and disconnected fantasy.

 

this is an important issue. Can we please dial down the ad hominens and have a civilized discussion?

 

Besides which those girls were probably asking for it according to Sharia Law by . . . being . . . female. This sort of stuff has got to be giving leftists headaches since they KNOW that they are correct in the face of reality endlessly demonstrating that they are utterly wrong about -- well -- pretty much about everything and all the damn time.

 

Now you are making a much more coherent and nuanced argument. Some of which I agree with.

Lets look at Rotherham, yes there was without doubt a Muslim sex ring, but what the Labour MP was complaining about and still has not been listened to was that there was a poor, mostly white underclass, that no-one gave a damn about. The sexual exploitation of this underclass has been going on for hundreds of years. What appalled everyone was that Muslims were now taking advantage of it. What is striking was the social workers and police on the ground were reporting it, they were not swayed by sociologists or frightened of being accused of racism.

Of course it is not all fluffy bunnies in Sweden, very few people would make that claim and if they did then you only have to look at the way immigration laws have changed to see it is not true. But that it is a far cry from Sweden Erupts in Riots and Flames.

Please look at post 40 for the riots in Sweden.

 

Welllll . . . the problem is that the Swedes have been conditioned by decades of government generated Cultural Marxism via the vehicle of Social Engineering to shut up and do what they are told by their ALWAYS leftist controlled government and that is a difficult mental conditioning to break. So WILL they break it before their nation is destroyed by leftist rule? (rocking hand) It could go either way and will go down to the wire before we know.

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Leftists NEVER correct or refute other leftists. I think that's written into their Cultural Marxism rule book somewhere.

 

In another thread I indicted to you exactly what I would like to see in my own country,

The separation of Church and State.
The removal of Government sponsored faith schools.
The removal of ALL religious courts.
The removal of ALL religious privileges over secular law.

 

The Swedes have also enjoyed centuries of peace and economic prosperity in war torn Europe, maybe others might learn from that.

 

So lets set the tone and lay down the foundations.

The fact is that Sweden is regarded as one of the sexual harassment capitals of Europe according to recent data: "The data shows that in Sweden and Denmark, 80 to 100 per cent of people said they were sexually assaulted as adults – the highest anywhere in the continent" (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...er-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html).

Now it is also recognised and acknowledged that the majority of rape that occurs in Sweden is from foreign background residents which make up 77% of the rapes from a 2011 publication: "Though Muslims are only 6% of the Swedish population, the immigrant population (which is mostly Muslim) is responsible for perpetrating 77% of all rapes. Due to the sensitive nature of these facts, over the last few years Sweden has stopped publishing figures of the religion and ethnicity of rapists." (http://the-unpopular-opinions.tumbl...untry-sweden-has-the-2nd-highest-rate-of-rape)

Looking at Muslim immigration, there has been hundreds of thousands of refugees (mostly Muslim) resettled in Sweden over a few years which is around 3 to 4% of the population (https://www.migrationsverket.se/Eng...-Agency/Facts-and-statistics-/Statistics.html). I shudder to think what the statistics are now.

The Swedish government are committing crimes against humanity by allowing in Muslim refugees to rape and assault their citizens. I think the Swedish government should be brought before The Hague for crimes against humanity for allowing their women to be raped and sexually assaulted and then trying to cover it up.

 

The Swedish government should be dragged before The Hague for crimes against humanity as they have openly been complicit in importing Muslim refugees to rape and sexually harass their citizens over decades. This is a crime against humanity.

 

So where is the data to show a growing trend for riots in Sweden?