Clashes in Stockholm Suburb Draw Attention to Trump’s Remarks

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  1. Latherty

    Latherty Well-Known Member

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    Thankyou

    Quite possibly, but unfortunately there doesn't appear to be data to support a claim that there had been an increase or had not been an increase with immigration though time nor between other areas of high or low immigration. (findings 4.1 and 4.2)

    This clashes with finding 11:
    Within the Council, we found no evidence of children’s social care staff being influenced by concerns about the ethnic origins of suspected perpetrators when dealing with individual child protection cases, including CSE. In the broader organisational context, however, there was a widespread perception that messages conveyed by some senior people in the Council and also the Police, were to 'downplay' the ethnic dimensions of CSE. Unsurprisingly, frontline staff appeared to be confused as to what they were supposed to say and do and what would be interpreted as 'racist'. From a political perspective, the approach of avoiding public discussion of the issues was ill judged.

    11.7 Several people interviewed expressed the general view that ethnic considerations had influenced the policy response of the Council and the Police, rather than in individual cases. One example was given by the Risky Business project Manager (1997- 2012) who reported that she was told not to refer to the ethnic origins of perpetrators when carrying out training. Other staff in children’s social care said that when writing reports on CSE cases, they were advised by their managers to be cautious about referring to the ethnicity of the perpetrators


    And the recommendations:
    Recommendation 13: The Safeguarding Board should address the under-reporting of sexual exploitation and abuse in minority ethnic communities.

    Recommendation 14: The issue of race should be tackled as an absolute priority if it is a significant factor in the criminal activity of organised child sexual abuse in the Borough.


    I am not saying that what may be happening in Sweden is exactly like Rothjerham, merely demonstrating that these things CAN happen, and we shouldn't close ourselves off from the possibility that they are happening because we don't like the president of the United States.

    Yeah, but that's the press isn't it? Sounds like you have been around enough to know how things happening on your street are a lot scarier when you read about them later....

    Thanks will do. Sorry about the long post
     
  2. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it was the citizens who voted it into office, therefore the government would be exonerated, and then it comes a case of the citizens getting what they asked for? And I'm afraid they have more of the same to come. Glad I don't live in Sweden. :omg: [​IMG]
     
  3. Chris Knight

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    HOLD ON. I am searching the terrorism and civil unrest databases on the internet now to see if there has been an increase over the last decade or so in Sweden. Something that is within the realm of your abilities. To be honest, I already know what the chart is going to look like.

    I am the good guy champ.
     
  4. Latherty

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    Ah, Neo Nazis. Yes a problem in Sweden,too
    Some might say that there is a reactionary element at play here, that the discomfort caused by rising perceptions of Immigrant crime is fuelling sympathy for racism and empowering Neo Nazis.
    In neither case was there a riot, though. In the first case, violence was instigated by the anti-Neo Nazis to their protest march, and in the other case it was a bombing of an asylum centre. Both cases terrible, neither a riot. Both cases reacting to high levels of immigration (ostensibly, at least).
     
  5. Chris Knight

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    It is a shame that a country like Sweden, that has so much potential to contribute to the world, needs to fall to a barbaric 7th century ideology. I can only speak for the nations that have provided me with citizenship, that they will not suffer the same fate of Sweden until the very end if it comes to it, but I think the superpowers will act very soon. Sweden will be a mess for the next decade, at least until they correct this issue. If I was a Swedish citizen, I would look at the option to bring the Swedish government before The Hague to wake them up.
     
  6. Chris Knight

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    You are quite intelligent Latherty, no question about it. However, if push comes to shove, would you go nuclear to preserve our civilisation?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if anyone did they'd probably get the bum's rush the same as I did when I emailed our Defence Secretary suggesting to him that IS is a far bigger threat to us than Russia - he'd been ranting on and on about 'Russian aggression' blah blah. I received and acknowledgement to the email, then a load of dissembling - almost childlike counter-argument, then when I countered that by asking him in what shape this so-called aggression was manifesting itself, guess what? He had my email account blocked in his department. 'Freedom of expression', 'the democratic process'? Yeah tell me about it!
     
  8. Chris Knight

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    It isn't comforting to know that our elected leaders are incompetent in being able to address the threats that our Western democracies face. In the UK, I would be more inclined to touch base with the Lords, as they have no obligation to act on behalf of anybody but the interests of the Queen. Although there are certain events which occurred that have tarnished the Lords (that perhaps were an isolated incident), they are the best bet from a legal, governance and administrative standpoint to protect the UK.
     
  9. Latherty

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    Thanks for the compliment
    I'm not too sure what "go nuclear" is supposed to mean, but I doubt I would. I'm not the killing kind, or even the harming kind come to think of it.

    I do think that we have a great civilisation, but it always needs tinkering. Look at the emergence of the PC culture from the "liberal" left. Somehow liberals got turned around to protecting and even proselytising illiberal ideals. That's not something I would seek to protect. But it comes from the "be excellent to each-other" Christian / Church-of-Bill-and-Ted root, which I would seek to protect.

    "Going Nuclear" sounds like it would have a lot of collateral damage.
     
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    Yes, because it's only going to get worse.

    Do you see it getting better?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh please, we saw what happened the last time you had a riot in London. Get used to it.
     
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    No! Now Answer this question. Does Trump saying that he once grabbed the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) of women who "let him" mean he assaults ALL women? No proof he ever did it by the way. And when he called Hillary nasty does it mean he called ALL Women nasty. NOPE!!!! Those women's marches with 100s of 1000s calling him a serial rapist would prove they're all insane liars wouldn't it?

    Hey if Liberals can stretch the truth why can't the rest of us? And for a country like Sweden, a riot like that is a BIG deal.


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    Agreed.

    For a country like Sweden, a riot like that is a BIG deal.

    You know what else is a big DEAL?

    The fact that the riot would've probably never happened if Trump knew to get his facts straight and keep his mouth from spewing uninformed lies.

    Heck, Trump probably used his contacts among anti-governmemt agitators in Sweden to orchestrate, plan and pay the rioters.

    Just to further his delusional narrative and give his knee-jerk defenders another talking point.

    Now THAT is a BIG deal.
     
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    You have, you do, what is a Liberal in Europe?
     
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    I see so its a riot because of what you think is going to happen in the future, got it. Another right wing FACT I guess!
     
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    Look, you can ignore the facts all you want.

    Setting fire to things, attacking police, citizens avoiding "areas of interest" (lefts version of a no-go zone), sexual assaults, people not going out at night, cops telling people to stay in their homes, cops breaking from government gag orders and telling people the truth on social media, and Swedish cops actually resorting to using firearms are just a taste of what is coming.

    How leftists choose to ignore reality when it's slapping them in the face is the biggest mystery of all.
     
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    Sure.

    Trump is so awesome he has a fleet of Republican Muslims all over Sweden.

    Thanks for the laugh (again).
     
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    His delusional narrative? Was he also responsible for the 2008 Malmo riots?

    Had to laugh. A left wing reporter was attack by the mob and had to take himself to the hospital after the police said they couldn't help.
     
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    I am not the killing kind either, however I believe that certain threats require a measured response in the interests of self-defence and preservation.
     
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    Trump caused the riot? HA=) That would make him a genius. Is he a genius? Could you cite his connections to agitators in Sweden. The world would love to know...hehe. I think you're confusing Soros full time paid agitators burning buildings and attacking cops, in the states .
     
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    Absolutely!
     
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    No...its a riot because the Swedish police said it was, and unlike you, they were actually there,genius!

    What do people like you call torching cars, destroying shop fronts,looting, and attacking the police arresting a drug suspect...a peaceful protest?

    Or does your definition depend on the politics or religion of the people doing it? :roll:
     
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    They are both violent and expensive:

    A COMPREHENSIVE WELFARE STATE OR OPEN BORDERS: PICK ONE.

    Bloomberg: Now Even Swedes Are Questioning the Welfare State.
     

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