MSNBC Anchor Admits "Our Job" Is To "Control Exactly What People Think"

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I started in 1982 when I delivered the Sacramento Bee and was frustrated at how lopsided the paper was back then.

    It's funny how instead of attempting to refute my point, you tried to get personal. Thanks for the fail post.

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    Why do you even post on a political board? That was embarrassing. Are you the eyeball guy that no one can stand and most ignore?
     
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    Lol. Too funny ... everyone can tell they are uninformed , they have been molded into morons through the liberal education fiasco.
     
  3. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have established the News Media is by and large massively Liberal biased, and is more interested in influence than in ratings. It is fun to watch the Liberal posters squirm.

    It's real clear that in the Market Place of Ideas Conservatism is what the markets favor. Otherwise Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin would not be on top of the markets, while Liberals can barely compete on the radio. Liberal newspapers are failing left and right as is CNN and MSNBC. I could fix CNN in a two month period, drive up their market share, and make them a ton of money, but that is not their goal. They want to push a Liberal agenda regardless of the cost.
     
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    Trump rejects key positions that the establishment and their media allies hold as sacrosanct: "Free Trade", American exceptionalism, and Cold War with Russia. That's the root cause of the hostility between them.

    The New York Times, for example, explicitly advocates imposing "Free Trade" around the world:

    Indeed it has, but the article does not say what kind of results and for whom.

    The Times also condemns Trump for not embracing American exceptionalism like they do, as in the belief that the state seeks only to spread freedom and democracy throughout the world in reaction to the crimes of enemies, which is true by definition.

    This is hardly a left-wing agenda.
     
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    Brainwashing!!. Heard of projection? Accusing somone of doing what you are guilty of. ?
    Didn't teach you that in your postgrad course? Easier to spout knees news and breitbart? That was not her simple meaning,it is your simple interpretation of what she said. Simple is easier if is one has limited education.
    As I thought, if you read the whole thing she was talking in the context of opposing someone who makes his own facts up. But then context is an unknown word to the white boy high school Trumpies.
    BTW sucking off your socialist SS and medicare benefits?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Post #4 and the first dodge.
     
  7. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you hold the position that the NY Time is not heavily Left Wing, then the, "controlling exactly what people think", which Mika Brzezinski mentioned has worked on you.

    Is that really your assertion? Do you really think the NY Times is not heavily Leftist overall?
     
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    MSNBC is fake news ?
     
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    She said that was their job.
     
  10. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They will never quit spinning, deflecting, or basically lying. It's what Liberals do.
     
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    Umm, Talk about embarrassing. All you did again was deflect, yet again. And double down on deflecting while offering nothing, making up this "you attacked me, I win" nonsense. Umm, look at your own post "Keep avoiding the actual topic when you have nothing Liberals. It's amusing."

    Anyway, thanks for admitting you don't really care about discussing anything nor do you have anything to discuss and admitting you are a troll. Feel free to ignore me
     
  12. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here you are again with nothing. Please leave if you can't be on the topic and contribute.

    [video=youtube;LQCU36pkH7c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c[/video]
     
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    Terrible isn't it. My dreaded liberal education 23 yr old neice started at 90k with a plastics engineering degree. My liberal Ed daughter who was bussed to the worst areas started a $250mm business. It's not the Ed it's the grey matter between your ears. And you our conservative genius? Feel better jUst whining?
     
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    To shut people up, you used to blame Bush, that didn't work.
    Then you just cried "Racist! Homophobe!". That no longer works.
    Then you claimed people were simply stupid. That didn't work. And you got Trump in the White House for it.
    Now you are claiming its "fake news". And that's not working either.
     
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    Weird isn't it? All my filthy rich science friends seem to be liberal. All the complainers - High school, white , and whining all the time
     
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    That is not what she said champ. She said that Trump and his people wanted to tell people exactly what to think and that is was their job...Then she was interrupted by Joe and did not get to finish her sentence which was no doubt something to the effect of:....to point out when Trump or anyone else is lying. Your whole thread is sneaky, dishonest and deceptive. Ms. Brezinski obviously did not mean that it is her job to tell people exactly what to think, and I am sure that you know that very well. Typical bull crap from the sleazy, lying right wing noise machine.
     
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    I believe your post is sneaky, dishonest and deceptive. She said what she said, unless you are a Liberal, then it's all up for change to meet your needs. I'll bet you think Gruber is a swell guy too!
     
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    Look at the injection of race into a non-racial thread. Thanks for that.... Liberals have not had a presence until race is played.

    My filthy rich science friends are not Liberal and I assure you I have a few hundred more than you. I work in Nuclear Power.... I have many scientist and engineers that are my friends and they would laugh at your silly assertion.
     
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    It was the Times that took us into Iraq with fake news. Again, not a left-wing agenda. The editorial board may be socially liberal but on issues like "Free Trade", war, economics, healthcare, and so on, they have a corporatist slant. And that's for many reasons.

    1. Their principal readers are the New York and Washington elite.
    2. They are mainly in the business of "access journalism." This requires journalists to be serviceable to power so that they maintain their access to these sources.
    3. The mainstream media's dependence on advertising revenue. This naturally biases media coverage towards more wealthy audiences, which raises advertising rates. Moreover, the Economist noted that media "projects unsuitable for corporate sponsorship tend to die on the vine," adding that "stations have learned to be sympathetic to the most delicate sympathies of corporations."
     
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    Because of their demented sense of self-importance, as Mika subtly disclosed as "controlling how people think", they've become their own worst enemy, primarily because they exist in a bubble dominated by the liberal/progressive world view & can't quite grasp why so many American's don't. They're shaken by that reality. After all, if they believe their job is to "control how people think" and people don't, it means they've failed, right?
     
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    Glad, in presenting the OP, the idea how the mainstream media is a shill for the establishment is elucidated.

    Where I think you miss the mark though is in not including Red who also does exactly what the mainstream media tells them in general.

    This is not a Red vs Blue issue. This is an "Establishment/ Oligopoly Bureaucracy Fusion Monster" vs the citizens of the US issue.

    The establishment goes out and creates terrorists (most recently (as of 2011) arming and supporting radical Islamist extremist Jihadists in Syria (including groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS, Islamic front and others of the same ilk)- which led to the worst humanitarian crisis so far this decade, the refugee crisis and the rise of the modern incarnation of ISIS) and then uses this fear to take away individual liberty/ rights and freedoms from the citizens of the US and to get them to agree to continue funding the defense contractors to fight this "terrible" threat.

    The founders warned us of this age old trick - "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security" Ben Franklin

    When Bush made it our patriotic duty to give up individual rights and freedoms - "Patriot act" ... alarm bells should have been going off.
    Obama then came along and change the name to the equally Orwellian doublespeak "Freedom Act" saying "If we want increased security - we need to give a little" as justification for NSA spying.

    Obama then reduced Gov't transparency even further and went after whistle blowers (and I am not talking Snowden) while rewarding the criminals - such as the Head of the NSA who lied to congress - got caught lying to congress - and not only did not get punished for this felony but kept his Job.

    The establishment (those who pull the strings) owns the banks, the defense contractors, the drug companies, the oil companies and the media.

    Remember the days when a news anchor would come on TV and read the news (no violation of the first rule of Journalism school = thou shalt not editorialize). Those days are gone. All we get now is some clown's opinion which is spin x 10.

    The corps are controlled by the board of directors and the establishment chooses who gets on the board. The board chooses the chief editor of a media corporation and the editor dictates content. Since the majority of the boards are controlled by the establishment the news content is then also controlled by the establishment.

    The Gov't has been creating fear and touting security as an excuse to take away individual liberty gain more power and turn this country into a quazi totalitarian police state with no gov't transparency or accountability to the people. "Trade your liberty for security - Its your Patriotic Duty".

    The Gov't claims it needs more power to combat the “threat” of terrorism because it is a "massive security risk".

    The problem with this argument is that giving the Gov't more power is a far bigger risk to the security of US citizens than some terrorist in the ME.

    We put a ban on a bunch of Muslim nations (not a bad idea for some on the list IMO) but leave off the nation that poses the biggest security risk (Saud) and others like Pakistan and Albania.

    Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Shabaab and numerous other Islamist groups- ALL share the same Saudi inspired radical Islamist Salafi ideology. Saud has been supporting the above groups and exporting this ideology around the globe for decades.

    IS THIS NOT NEWS ? The mainstream media is conspicuously silent on this issue. Iran does not even come close in terms of being a state sponsor of terror that poses a risk to the US.

    The risk of harm to a US citizen from terrorism is 400 times less than the risk of harm from "WALKING". You heard me correctly.

    Giving the Gov't more power towards the creation of a police state is a clear and present danger. It is an immediate risk to the security of every freedom loving US citizen.

    OHHH but NOOO NO NO NO.... The Gov't will not abuse that power. ... will they ? Power corrupts and more power corrupts more. It is an absolute certainty.

    The founders set up a system in which the power of Gov't was supposed to be limited. For 200 years Gov't has been trying to get that power back . and they have succeeded.
     
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    Wow...American conservatives are happy to consider "government" to be the problem, not part of the solution...

    ...and the free press to be the enemy...

    ...and they have negative comments to make about liberals???

    C'mon.

    There are sheep in our midst...but most are wearing red hats that talk about making America great again.




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    Granny says dat's zackly what dem lefty lib'ral control freaks think.
    :grandma:
    Dey's real job is to truthfully report the facts...

    ... an' let people make up dey's own minds.
    :cool:
     
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    She didn't? Magic has happened, and the tape has been altered? News at 11??

    Mika said exactly that it was the job of the media to tell folks what to think. In baseball, that's more than three strikes. You're out.
     
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    My take on it exactly. Joe interrupts her very often. But, WTH, it's his show. She's just the token lib female.

    ETA: Will definitely be watching Thursday's show.
     

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