Domestic Terrorists are getting Guns

Shouldn’t be a problem then, America is awash with guns, or pop down to your local gun store, the NRA don’t give a damn who they sell to, just give us the money.

 

You are implying that the NRA are just in it for the money. I wonder if this is libel.

Also, do NRA sell guns?

 

Oh look - the demonisation of people based on ideology and really not one shred of evidence

 

Read the links in post #1. You are not in the USA so you don't see the daily news and hear the Left, but you can google it and learn. "progressives" believe the ends justify the means, that's why they played games to get obamacare passed, sat by while obama used the regulatory agencies as his political police force, wrote illegal executive orders.

Now that they have los the political power, they resort to violence.

When an ideology is intent of fundamental transformation (revolution) through violence, when it is openly a threat to public safety, it should be demonized.

Wrong read on the times.

Most "progressives" are snowflakes, they are "useful idiots", but they are not totally committed so they will risk their lives. They will riot and rampage because to them its fun, until they encounter actual resistance, then it not fun and they will run. But the core of the "progressives" are zealots, they have over decades honed their skills at inciting chaos and violence, and they will be dangerous. Those are the ones (such as antifa) who are calling for escalating to firearms.

No, that's what the Left is advocating.

All American citizens are allowed to own firearms, unless they are felons. I even advocate that most felons (not people with a history of violence) who have completed their punishment should be allowed to fully re-enter society, including voting and owning firearms.

"progressive" zealots who openly advocate for the overthrow of the USA are not Americans. Its time to stop treating them like they follow the Constitution, its time to revoke their citizenship, and throw them out.

 

Well they rate and pay politicians to block any move to limit the sale of firearms and they are the propaganda arm of the gun manufactures. If that’s libel --- sue me.

 

When you give faux liberals guns, you get those bad areas of Chicago.

We just need to tell these people, "you'll shoot yer eye out kid". A faux liberal with a gun just seems like a contradiction in terms. I wonder if we should trust them with a gun? A gun needs a rational owner.

 

Do you have any actual evidence to demonstrate such? Or are you merely making vague generalizations about a complex issue that is beyond your comprehension?

Classifying the entire NRA, all four to five million of its members, as to not caring about who has firearms, so long as they are provided with a percentage of the sales. It is a statement devoid of actual evidence.

 

Any evidence for any of the above? No, of course not.

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So what else are the NRA for? Don't tell me; 'to educate people on gun safety'? The NRA are shills for the gun makers. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

After the Sandy Hook massacre of 20 little children the NRA solution was the arm schoolteachers i.e. sell more guns. You know the truth but choose to ignore it because you love playing with guns.

Beyond my comprehension?
During my service career I have used guns for what they are designed for and my last years of service were spent as a weapons instructor.
The army are not especially bright but their not stupid, so firearms are under strict control and the first safety rule i.e. separate the ammunition from the gun is enforced. A single round of ammunition found in you’re possession would mean a court marshal and no excuses were excepted in defense. Even on active service I was subject to the Rules of Engagement.

Compare that to selling guns to civilians where there is no control other than self control. So guns and ammunition are kept in broom cupboards, loaded handguns lay around for children to pick up to play with.

Last, something you don’t want to hear. Over 7,000 children are hospitalized or killed due to gun violence every year, according to a new study published in the medical journal Pediatrics.

But of course you know the facts or choose not to read them.

 

An organization made up of approximately four and one half million private individuals from all walks of life.

 

First and foremost, the united states has engaged in a constant effort at maintaining a complete prohibition on firearms being on school grounds for twenty seven years now. And in that twenty seven years, despite the prohibition being at the federal level, the united states has experienced numerous firearm-related killings on school grounds. There have been more firearm-related killings on school grounds after the prohibition was implemented, than there were in the time leading up to the prohibition.

There has been more than enough time to conclude that the prohibition has done no measurable good whatsoever. There is no reason to believe that continuing more of the same would achieve any better results.

Second, educators that would be armed under the proposal of the NRA would be those who already own firearms and who are already licensed to carry a concealed firearm. There would be no need for selling anymore firearms for the purpose of the staff being armed for the purpose of protecting students from a mass murderer.

Third, you speak about the truth, but there has been adequate demonstration on the part of yourself as to not having a clue as to what exactly it is. Instead you favor the use of name calling, petty insults, and hyperbole.

Meaning that you are in possession of the knowledge in how to use a tool. However usage of a tool does not make one an expert in the more complex issues behind the matter.

And it is reasons such as that, that the Fort Hood incident was ended by a member of the military police, rather than those who were being fired upon and killed by Nadal Hassan.

The obvious question of "so what?" must be asked with regard to the above. What difference is made if private individuals do not have all the training of military personnel? According to the available statistics from the FBI, the chief law enforcement agency for the united states, the number of firearm-related accidents has been steadily dropping for years.

How many from accidents that occur within the home, with the firearm owned by the parent? How many from violence committed by a criminal individual, such as gang warfare?

You speak of facts, but you do not use them. Instead you appeal to nothing more than raw emotion, which is devoid of critical thinking.

 

And of them, how many have engaged in acts of violence against others?

 

Lol...Is the Pope Catholic?

 

The election of Donald Trump proved there were at least that many people in America who will believe anything

 

Domestic terrorists? You mean liberal/progressives are arming themselves?

Won't change anything, but ok...

 

With 300 million guns in circulation in America it seems that everyone is arming themselves. But feel free to keep shooting each other in the tens of thousands every year, because that, apparently, is what advanced nations which consider themselves leaders and setters of examples to the less enlightened among us, consider as appropriate behaviour.
And, of course, the statistics from the gun-obsessives will arrive as sure as the sun rises; 'ban swimming pools', etc. America has an enormous and seemingly unsolvable problem with guns, despite all the inevitable 'what about the responsible gun owners?' deflections. Everyone is 'responsible' until the day when they cease to be. Ban the wretched things like every other civilized Western nation has done-and for very good reasons. 'Oh, but then only the bad guys will have guns...' Here's a tip; bad people will always find ways of being bad, and with 300 million guns in circulation there's 300 million opportunities for them to acquire even more.

 

Oh look - the demonisation of people based on ideology and really not one shred of evidence.

 

A -far- better solution than the reaction from the left -- enact gun control laws that would not in any way have prevented the shooting.

Interesting.
During your service career, in the line of duty, did you ever use, train with, or provide instruction on the AR-15?
Note: I said AR-15, not M16.

In the military, you do not have a right to own and use a gun.
As a civilian, you do.
Thus, your comparison is invalid.

Citation please.

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Oh look - the demonisation of people based on ideology and really not one shred of evidence

 

I have given you plenty of facts out of the many if you can’t acknowledge them the fault is yours not mine, and if you seriously think that the cold blooded slaughter of twenty toddlers doesn’t warrant an emotional response, then I have nothing more to say to you.

 

In the US, for every gun used to commit murder yesterday, 16,000,000 were not.
Oh, what a problem.

Every woman has the capacity to become a whore. So, according to your argument, lets threat them all as if they will.

No western nation has banned guns. Not one. Not even Japan.

 

It's funny how quickly progressives shelve their progressive principles depending on which way the wind blows.

Like I said, they don't truly stand for anything besides winning elections.

 

Wow...conservatives really hate women huh?

 

Actually we have; Great Britain has banned the possession of handguns completely, with very few exceptions as in my link, and if you want a rifle you better have a damn good reason-'self-defense' isn't good enough. Two horrific massacres committed by people with legally held handguns was enough to convince our government. How many more thousands of needless deaths will it take to convince Americans? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_policy_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

Excuse me? Yesterday you wanted EVERYONE to have guns including right wing domestic terrorists, criminals, people with mental issues...

But today you don't want progressives to have guns?

A little self awareness would be a good think although totally unexpected

 

I agree with you 100%! And yes. yes we have Only question now is when and where?