Democrats in disarray and rudderless

You're grasping at straws

 

I really try to stay out of other people's private affairs regarding who they screw and where they screw them. I don't really care who Trump screws either or that he used to grab the vaginas of certain women. I, just like Ted Cruz and several other prominent Republicans feel that we have mistakenly elected a pathological liar and crook to the highest position in our government. At first I gave him the benifit of the doubt and said, maybe you have to lie your ass off to win in the circus that US politics has become. But iafter seeing who he has appointed to high positions, I can clearly see that this guy is a danger to us and to the world at large. I am not a Democrat, in fact the last time I registered it was as Republican to vote for Ron Paul in the California Primary. However, to me today's GOP is and has been led by thriving war profiteering scumbags for a couple generations. The Democrats are also weak corrupt sellouts in my book. I am in favor of keeping a close eye on Trump and all of his cronies both foreign and domestic and I appreciate the journalists who are digging into everything they are up to...Cheers

 

Let's show just a bit of research. Obama is lousy law.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottg...le-has-obamacare-really-insured/#9828b6e788a8

 

Gosh, a clear description of Bill Clinton. Even Obama lied a lot.

Are you aware of what a vagina is? How do you grab what is inside the woman?

I think voters correctly voted. Even the Clinton lovers correctly voted. Even the Sanders voters correctly voted.

I personally desired a former Governor. Matter of fact, Democrats had an exceptional governor they should have picked and not Obama but alas, they correctly voted for Obama. Not because he won, but in their hearts they were correct.

Frankly, I have seen some honest Democrats praise the cabinet picks. You knew very well that Rand Paul neve would win yet you correctly voted for him. I liked him and his old man a lot. But saw that here in CA, be a Democrat or forget it.

I don't mind the media digging. I mind them digging what they think is dirt and reporting they found fecal matter. They covered for Bill Clinton and Obama. Now they want to disrupt the entire country because they do not like Trump. Tears of rage perhaps?

We both live in one messed up state. Brown could have used the train money and tried to solve the water problem. He, for instance should have created massive pits with rock, gravel and sand in them and pumped the excess water into the subsoil. But he needs a train. I never will ride such a train. I doubt you will either. But we both need water.

There is this Trump rage that frankly I just do not understand. I wanted a Governor not a TV guy. But I got what the folks of America handed me. I plan to make the best of it. This moaning is not helping anybody.

 

I love California and I like Jerry Brown as governor both times around. I also liked George Dukmejian and Arnold as they all brought something to the table. I thought Reagan was a prick when he acted against Ceasar Chavez and said that Mr. Chavez was morally wrong for trying to get humane conditions for farm workers. What an ******** he was in his younger days. I would love to see Governor Brown's train project come to fruition and perhaps revolutionize travel here in the US the way it has in China and some European countries. I would also support a huge project not only in California but nationally to solve water problems. Last year I remember watching national news one day and there was a big story about the drought in California. The next clip showed several houses being washed away with families in Texas. For Christ's sake, if we can put men on the moon, we ought to be able to move water around our country, not just oil....

 

The fact that you like Democrats running our state and are willing to spread falsehoods about Reagan explains things much more than you think it does.

Chavez fought for illegals. I credit him for that but Reagan had given amnesty and felt he did plenty for the illegals. Governors play no role in union bargaining and you ought to know that.

The fact you blindly accept the train shows you truly support Democrats.

I happen to have made a good living building BART. So if anybody ought to love government boondoggles it should be me. But I happen to think higher of taxpayers than I do of Democrats.

If you board a train able to exceed 200 mph, why not fly? And do you really get how much this will cost? And that is not remotely the end of costs. This will keep costing and costing. Not merely riders as they hike ticket prices, but the very taxpayers not using the system will still pay a steep price to get a person from A to L. And what about stops in between? Those people living all up and down the path of that train have to get to a station. And park. Park where?

Japan is unique. And they don't get rid of the slower passenger lines. I have youtubed a lot of Japans rails and other countries too.

We don't get oil from Texas so a pipe to Texas won't happen. Texas won't wish to pipe their water to CA.
As I suggested, since we proved this here in my CA city, huge pits for the water with rocks, gravel and sand in them filter the water. We had brackish tasting water early on. Our gravel pits that are used as lakes filter the water. What my city purchases goes directly into the water table.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarry_Lakes_Regional_Recreation_Area

 

The slur against Reagan got me to looking up Chavez. I recall the man when he was still living.

Found a lot about him that I did not know. That he worked to kill the Bracero program that brought in legal Mexican labor to work the fields. Chavez did not want illegals here. Chavez put a good effort into killing the Bracero program.

The entire article is well worth reading.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/04/14/hunger-artist-2

I found 1 reference to Reagan. And it was his opinion.

 

This is so myopically stupid. Name any other president who entered office with as many profound challenges as Obama faced on day 1. Legit national financial crisis, simultaneously the two longest wars we've ever been involved in, and a powerful and well-organized GOP obstructing him at all times regardless of the cost to the nation of doing so. You guys give him no credit, ever, for anything. It's beyond demagoguery; it's absurd.

 

It is extremely arrogant to say those were Obama's problems as if he was on his menstrual cycle.

Democrats have not the foggiest idea what government does. They also do not know the limits.
Obama could have shut off two wars. But when he left after 8 years, the conditions had got worse, not better.

Bush freed two nations. How many did Obama free?

Obama offered a super long list of his achievements. I know it still remains in his now deposed web site. Even GW Bush is still there with his.

For all the wailing and gnashing of teeth how republicans stopped Obama, somebody needs to inform Obama to erase that super long list of things he alleges he got done.

The man made a huge mess of health care. He lives with that shame.

 

Pure revisionism to fit a manufactured conclusion to suit your worldview.

Bush *freed* two nations? Really.

 

Again you show extreme prejudice. What more can be said when Bush deposed two tyrants, two dictators if you prefer and now two countries are free to select their own leaders.

I appreciate George W. Bush. Bush was a real leader. Obama pretended he might one day get around to it.

 

Your revisionist skillz are seriously impressive. Have you forgotten how badly botched everything about Iraq was by Bush and his people? Honestly? I mean go back and reread the decisions made by Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the neocon contingent. "He tried to kill my daddy". I honestly don't think any of us here need to relitigate the arguments about how messed up everything about that justification for invasion was. It was a **** show; foisted on us by the foregone conclusions of a bunch of arrogant hawk morons, and perpetuated by their lazier, messier assessments of how that would all go. The financial crisis... are you honestly going to say that Obama didn't lead with a steady hand through that? And you're accusing me of extreme prejudice? Let's go back to the first post I quoted that belongs to you.

 

To be kind to you, you have no idea what you are saying. It is too wrong to be more than propaganda. I have corrected Democrats mendacity far too many times to accept you or any of them will actually study this topic. I spent hours of my life explaining what actually did happen, showing them my proof and showing them ways to get the facts.

Bush never concluded the Clinton law using the tried to kill my daddy excuse. You will find no references made by Bush he said that.

Actually you totally forget it was the Democrats who for 8 straight years rained down hell on Saddam. i used to ask them when they did it, why not simply invade and catch the man? Democrats passed the law to depose Saddam. Now they act as if they have complete amnesia.

The financial crisis was not much more than the Democrats refusal to correct a problem. A court caused a problem and legislation could have stopped the housing crisis in it's tracks. Bush went hard at congress to get them to legislate the fix. Democrats kept refusing.

Your extreme prejudice is against Trump and as I figured, also Bush.

 

Democrats have been content to sit back and enjoy watching Ryan's rabid pack savage one another (Their fifty-fifth ACA repeal fiasco was a beauty!) but, with congressional Repubs so dysfunctional, Trump may need to go begging to the adults to get anything accomplished.

The Mar-a-lago messiah's miserable approval numbers will continue to deteriorate unless he can pass more than wind.

"WHAAAA! I got no gas!"
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You can thank the CIA for putting the tyrant of Iraq in power..

 

Wish I could like your post fifty times.

 

Yeah. trump is probably the world leader when it comes to filing bankruptsy, leaving his investors holding the bag and losing millions, stiffing suppliers and workers and contractors. And also, too, he is the absolute tops at scamming struggling college kids out of their money as well as destroying their dreams of a better future. Some of the sleazebags in the trump administration would consider that an accomplishment. Yeah, trump is quite a small-handed guy, alright.

 

Bush destabilize the entire region ,we we are paying for it today through lives and money

why?

 

Like so many other republicans who try constantly to rewrite history, you are delusional. The George W Bush presidency was a train wreck. Needless wars, hundreds of thousands of innocent people murdered. People tortured in America's name. The American and world economies nearly totally destroyed. But, as the GOP always does, he made sure to give huge tax cuts to the super rich parasites who helped him get elected, even as the American economy was going up in smoke and middle-class families were losing their homes.

It's true that he deposed two tyrants. But he also left the middle east in ruins. As of today many millions of innocent people have been murdered, many wars still rage, governments are unstable (where they still exist), and chaos is the order of the day. Millions of people have been forced to flee their homes, as war has created the biggest refugee problem in memory. Europe is about to drown under a tsunami of refugees and immigrants. And the problems continue to spread and worsen. Many of those countries are sheer hell-holes today thanks to idiot Bush. And the wars continue to this day. ISIS was born because of the wars Bush needlessly started and the hopelessness and devastation that followed.

We are, even now, just in the middle of the horrible mess Bush started. Generations of people have lost their lives and any hope for a decent future. And, eventually, if the wars ever come to an end, the world will have to look for some way to help rebuild a middle east that has been reduced to rubble, all thanks to yet another, in a never-ending parade of republican imbeciles: George W. Bush.

And infesting our White House today, is an orange cockroach with the potential to be even worse than Bush.

 

Lord help any person you ever try to teach. They will need a state to pray for them. First, nothing i say is a rewrite other than erasing the propaganda posted by very loyal Democrats. Bear in mind who I am. I was once one of you.
I know the tricks. I spent decades learning Democrats tricks.

Examine virtually every war there ever was and you will learn quickly all wars were called needless.

I personally did not want wars. This was why when Clinton was president, I kept urging Democrats to buck the Clinton war making policies. But they defended wars. Further, Democrats defended the Bush wars. They still defend the Afghanistan war. When FDR bombed Europe, was the place in excellent shape once he was finished Bombing?

General Franks unlike the majority of past general officers worked hard not to destroy either Afghanistan nor Iraq. But he whipped Saddam so fast Saddam resorted to hiding in his version of the Fox hole.

You must be meaning the wholesale mess up by Obama in many areas caused refugees to flee. When Bush invaded Iraq there is no doubt the Saddam supporters engaged in large scale fleeing. Even his army fled. This later got called Bremers disbanding of the then invisible army. They were hiding.

I want to take on your claims of torture.

First, I saw as bad in 1962 when training in the USA Army at Fort Ord as water boarding is. I laugh when the simple act of using water to prevent breathing for 30 seconds gets called torture. Even repeating it is not torture.

I call it torment. Torment comes in many phases. When I was in training, the Army then used electricity on troops to show them why they must never talk to the enemy. Do you call the electric shock to troops torture? Kennedy was my president. Was some of the men I commanded tortured by President Kennedy? Are Navy seals tortured by all presidents? Why not since they are waterboarded?

The Seals use of waterboarding is why the Bush legal team declared waterboarding as done by the Bush team never was torture. Don't blame me for their legal decisions.

Where did you come up with this idea it was Bush's fault when bombers blew up civilian structures, resulting in killing many people? Who told you how many died? How did they count them?

That is akin to blaming Obama for the tens of thousands dead today in Syria. I hope you do understand that????

Given Hillary sought cash from those millionaires and got so much money to campaign with she easily outspent a billionaire that won, and she got maybe the record amount of cash, it stuns me you see her contributors as parasites.

Democrats have rules they follow from birth. My parents trained me to hate the rich. Supposedly we workers were the good guys but our bosses were the bad guys. Paying me a lot of income as a young adult sure makes Democrats angry. Such parasites actually sharing their wealth with a normal working guy who got dirty at work doing heavy construction. My bosses all scums you claim?

Since I am rightfully by law called an expert on the housing markets, I do not blame Bush one bit. I don't credit Obama either so I am fair to both presidents. I understand the housing collapse. I lived through it. My company lived through it. I am subject to this day to the draconian solution of Dodd Frank. That law sucks. It did not solve problem and made things a nightmare.

Bush spotted the correct fix to prevent it but Democrats blocked him from enacting the correct solution. Democrats are on video blocking Bush. They lie and deny it was them to this very day.

Say, don't ask me for links. You supplied zero links yet you make your argument. Trust me, I am correct.

As to the refugees, sorry wrong president. This problem got very serious during Obama and he can't hide from his actions. Those fleeing are leaving areas where Obama interfered. Not areas where Bush did.

I agree with your assessment of the ME by the way, so I agree with some of what you proclaim.

I advise you to read at least 3 books. Franks book, De Long's book and Bremer's book. I have many more to suggest but reading Franks book you learn what really happened in the ME and De Long backs up Franks. I suggest De Long to supply posters with 2 views so they need not read just Franks book. Bremer is best on post war and to get the gist of what Iraqis took charge of Iraq, Bremer is very instructive.

Trump is not yet judged by me. He has hardly set in the oval office to declare he is a disaster. I realize by law Democrats are sworn to attack the man. They follow that law no matter the president. They hated all republican presidents but one. That being the outlaw Abraham Lincoln. That man had well north of 600,000 american killed in combat. And not over slavery. He did it claiming he would unite the nation one more time. At the cost of 600,000 americans, was it worth it? Not as I see it.

 

Your video is not policy.
How can you watch Libya, Syria, Egypt, Yemen and yes, still in Afghanistan and blame all that on Bush?

You people truly don't think Obama did a darned thing. Amazing but you guys never think Obama so much as got his hands dirty. Obama to you did fine in Yemen, Libya and Syria. Amazing none of that was due to Obama actions.

 

Are you actually comparing the Trump business record to whom? Obama or Clinton? What businesses did they buy and manage? Only a type of Bankruptcy hurts investors. Such as the hurt Obama put onto GM and Chrysler. Obama ruined many thousands of investors that put too much into auto firms. Still, the bankruptcy laws are not there for the benefit of the investors. I suggest you study business law where you can get a good instruction on such laws. I took the full course in college. If you want to know more, go to school.

But let's pick on Trump over some purchases he made that were in such poor shape he used the bankruptcy laws. Sure, don't blame Obama but pick out Trump.
Bankruptcy hurts a lot of people. How many did Obama ruin over at the major auto firms and suppliers?

If you mean Trump U, the vast majority of his customers really believed in his teaching. I never went to Trump U but assure I too have been to a lot of such groups. Some I smelled right away as scams so they got no money from me.

The world is rife with scam artists. Obama was one as well.

Start naming names when you attack. What trump team members are you accusing. I keep having to recall that to democrats all republicans are enemies to them. They take an oath to hate all republicans.

 

Are you actually impressed with Trump?

 

No, This was when Carter, whom I voted for, was president. I see nothing at all about Carter that put Saddam into power. But if you had read Wikipedia, you would have some foundation to go by.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein#Rise_to_power

 

@Margot2, too soon to tell. This for me would be like passing judgement on a baseball game in the 1st inning.