Democrats in disarray and rudderless

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Benghazi has been investigated 6 ways to Sunday.. and they found nothing. Can't you let that go?

    Meanwhile, Trump is threatening to go against any Republicans who sandbagged his healthcare bill.. saying he'll prevent them from being re-elected. And, he is sending out individual tweet attacks on members of the Freedom Caucus.
     
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    The British defeated Iraq in a couple of weeks as well.. and then the wheels came off and they were stuck there for 20 years. Ended up with the RAF gassing tens of thousands of Kurds and Iraqi Arabs.

    Bush's war was plain stupidity.
     
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    And Hillary and the Dims voted for it.
     
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    You are getting desperate to apologize for Hillary - probably due to your kindred love of Saud.

    So what if Benghazi was investigated ? That does not change the fact that it was a scandal that affected her in the election. One of the stories about Benghazi that did hit the mainstream was the fact that Hillary was sending arms from Libya to Syria (along with your beloved Saud).
     
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    No she wasn't.. and neither was KSA. Gaddafi had huge stockpiles of weapons.. He spent 2 billion on a shopping spree in Moscow in 2010 alone.

    There was a plan to buy arms from an arms dealer for Syrian rebels that was canceled.. and the Saudis looked at supplying weapons for al Nusra but changed their minds in remembrance of AQ in Afghanistan.
     
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    Well, Cheney was running Bush and cherry picking the intelligence. Cheney has been hired to lobby his DC contacts by Haliburton .. to lift sanctions against Iraq, Iran, Libya and the Stans. He failed.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abject nonsense and head in the sand denial. That Saud was arming the Syrian Rebels has been proven - Saud does not deny this.

    Fox news reported on the movement of arms from Libya to Syria - interviewed a DOD representative who confirmed the story.

    Your partisanship and love for all things Saud has affected your brain.
     
  8. Kode

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    Yes, it's actually the republican party that is in disarray. It is being torn apart by trump and by their own "Freedom Caucus". Trump's approval rating is the lowest in history and his voting public is beginning to slip away. I just hope he is stripped of his right to declare war before he does. Then we can work on putting him and his administration in prison.
     
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    That is exactly what most Democrats do. Hell, they got most partisan Democrats joining with Hilary Clinton's call to go to war against Russia and furiously demanding we return to the McCarthy era.
     
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    No, that is a lie told by Democrats a million times - and always a lie when told.

    The Federal Courts NEVER ruled Trump's EO was unconstitutional. They ruled it was prohibited by a Federal regulatory law.
     
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    Michelle Obama starts out with a lock on 25% as that is the percentage of black voters in the Democratic primary. Most Democrats vote based upon race and gender - leaning away from male and white if given the choice. Issues generally are 100% irrelevant. So in addition to 25% of the vote for being black, she would certainly pound any male Democratic primary candidate.

    Her obstacle will be the same one Hillary Clinton faces. The "Deep State," which most Democrats now worship, did not want Hillary Clinton for her temper fearing she would not be fully submissive to them - as Democrat Senate leader Chuck Schumer said every politician must totally submit to the intelligence agencies or they will destroy you. The Deep State likely would also be concerned about whether they could totally control Michelle Obama. We are currently seeing their hysteria and attempts to destroy Donald Trump for not having total control over him.

    So, put simply, I believe the Deep State would oppose Michelle Obama and accordingly would block her candidacy any way possible.
     
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    The intelligence community is but one competing interest among many. The military industrial complex for instance is also a powerful (albeit not unrelated) force. Trump has them on his side because although he doesn't seek confrontation with Russia, he does want to boost the military economically.
     
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    Well 10 million Democrats chose not to vote for Hillary so it's not like the Democratic party is perfect. The Republican party is far from perfect but averages 60 million voters every recent election while the Democrats have their up's and down's. The Republican party has a more loyal base in my opinion and the Democrats have done nothing to try and convince some of these voters to switch parties. The 60 million who voted for Trump do matter. The Democratic party should try to fight for these votes but acts like it does not care. Remember the deplorable comment by Hillary? I have yet to see Trump's voters slipping away but if a few of them are I doubt they are running over to the left or the Democrats. They have no good reason to.

    If you want to beat Trump please fix your corrupt party and find someone who actually cares about the middle class, poor people, jobs, christians and abortions and maybe some on the right might consider changing parties. Then again every popular Democrat in the polls to lead the party are all the same old people with the same old problems. The Democratic party needs new faces.

    The Republican party screwed up with Bush and almost did it again with Romney. This is one time they got it right. Hillary was not elected. Trump is a childish loud mouth and some of the things he is doing is stupid but he is doing some good things too like creating jobs. Time will tell if he does a good job or not.
     
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    Well, you seem to agree with me, but why the deflection? BTW I agree with you re the Democratic Party.
     
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    Democratize party must be pregnant, they have became the party of outrage now. Estrogen levels are way too high

    During the first few weeks of pregnancy, both estrogen and progesterone levels rise rapidly and can affect mood stability. By the sixth week, a woman's estrogen level is approximately three times that of the highest point in the menstrual cycle, and many women become extremely irritable.

    http://www.womensinternational.com/connections/moods.html
     
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    And VA is single payer.
     
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    I always wonder about thebpeople who claim FOX News is all right wing and Pro-Trump when their hard news led by Smith is nothing of the sort. Smith does not hide his liberal slant or disdain to say the least of Trump.
     
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    Yes.. everyone knows the VA is single payer but its not the only single payer model. The VA owns the facilities and employs the doctors and staff.
     
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    Then why didn't Obama and the Democrats fix the "few problems" and what did they admit were the "few problems"?
     
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    Reagan, Bush43 certainly FDR. Clinton entered on strong economic growth but his policies which were Obama lite slowed that recovery. You know the Obama excuse that it was just too hard doesn't score many points.
     
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    Robert, I have a funny story on that. A few months ago I went to the VA and on my way out as I walked through the parking garage there was a guy raving to anyone who would listen, pointing at a car with a "Bernie" sticker on it. "What's he doing here at the VA, a place for patriotic veterans and he is promoting socialism!! A bumper sticker for a socialist!!"

    I stopped and said "but the VA is socialist." He look at me like I was crazy and got angry and denied it. I said "it is run by the government and no private business is involved with no private profits involved." He said no more but looked very unhappy.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    We found out lots of things what is it you are claiming we disnt find out?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More funny stuff.

    Germany, during 1963... Me
    "Sgt. Dodd (first sgt.)

    Don't you think it sucks we are here defending freedom yet we do not enjoy the freedom we protect?

    Robert, you are talking like a GD communist!"

    So, socialism is not all good
     
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    I said they found nothing.........
     
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