Muslims are hesitant to criticize other Muslims because Allah will punish them if they do

Some day you'll rise to the level of Modern Secular Humanism, and "love everybody, equally". I have faith....faith in YOU.

 

You can't condemn Muslims for believing a pedo is the #1 role model of all time, apparently.

 

Please look up the world "selfish" in the dictionary, and then take a look in the mirror.
Thanks.

 

Humans simply aren't capable of loving everyone in the whole world. We're capable of saying it but we're not capable of actually experiencing real human love for all the people of mankind. It's well understood in human psychology that people who make such claims are immediately this distrusted by the majority of people.

 

Then you're like a Muslim - except they are better than you because at least they do love the 1.5 billion other Muslims - per the Islamic texts, as I quote in the OP.
You can change your ways, however.

 

Wow, that's terrible! We are at war with these people.

 

Well, then don't take what I said personally. I wasn't directing it anyone in particular.

 

No. We're not at war with them.

I just don't think our cultures are compatible.

Democrats do, but I don't think they think before they say things.

 

Very funny.

 

It's important to separate the religion and the culture. Western Muslims are not (all) part of those extreme religious cultures, nor are all predominantly Muslim cultures alike.

 

Nonsense - here, say this prayer with me: "Jesus, I love humanity so much that I beg you to take me, torture me, and in return change your ways by letting the ethical non-believers into heaven and avoid the torture you were going to see that they get."

Can you say that prayer with me, RA? It's the loving thing to do. If you can say this prayer then you are arguably more loving than any Christian (unless they will say this prayer.)

 

Yes, religions = morality....wow!

 

Just saying crap Isn't Love. I think herein lies your problem.

You think if you just say all kinds of crap and write long essays in each post you're expressing love.

 

Dude, they have the same texts, the same role model, the same invisible friend in the sky, etc., and virtually none of them have found the moral courage to improve on said texts/role-model/invisible-friend.

 

You can't say that prayer, can you?
I'm fascinated as to why you can't do that. Was it the hatred that Jesus taught towards those that are different (i.e. unbelievers) that lead you to abandon love so much?

 

The religion IS the culture. That's what makes Islam so unique. Its central prophet was a warlord, and he commanded his followers to act accordingly. It doesn't help that the most violent passages in the Qur'an are considered to be the most relevant to Muslims today, either.

But what are we getting from this group that makes their presence here worth the risk? We know that a percentage of them are going to be violent extremists, or at least support that perspective (some estimates put the global number at 25% of them), so what are we getting in return?

 

Saying it is a start, however. Can you say that you're more loving than god because you'd let ethical Muslims into "heaven", and avoid Jesus' Auschwitz ("hell"), if it were up to you, RA? I can, so maybe you should consider me your role model when it comes to love. You won't say it, if I know you like I think I do, but when you can bring yourself to say that then you'll have stepped into a larger world.

 

You said: >>Jesus/Christians... hate others so much that they are perfectly fine with those others (non-believers) getting brutally, savagely, barbarically TORTURED (for 99.999999+% of their total existence, counting the "afterlife") - just for being "other"!<<

This is your trump card when you face God is it? Your favored position has agenda written all over it. You want to be a playboy and not be accountable because you think you are the holy one around here. Boy, do you need help.

As the saying goes:
Smart people look at similar things and see differences.
Obtuse people look at similar things and see similarities.

 

Nonsense! I've never run across a Muslim who will condemn Mohammad for saying "I have been made victorious through terror". Not one!

 

Race arguably has almost as much to do with it as religion.

Not surprisingly, black Muslims are more likely to commit terrorism than any other Muslim racial group.

 

WHICH invisible friend in the sky are you talking about? RA? Zeus? Thor? Allah? Nanook? Krishna? There are thousands, and they are mutually exclusive, to a large degree. Which on are you talking about? If you can, please provide a court-room level of evidence that the one god you worship is the real and true one - should be no problem if he's all-powerful like you claim. I'll wait.

 

Being black does not drive one to get the 72 promised virgins....being MUSLIM does. A black Modern Secular Humanist would have much much less incentive to commit a suicide attack against "non-believers" than a white Muslim would.

 

Why you got to shoot down Muslim victories man? Let them have their wins.

 

I AM accountable - if I face a "god" after my death he'll say "good for you - an ancient unscientific book threatened you with torture if you didn't believe in said book that approves of slavery and killing gays, but you stood your ground and didn't buy into that religion because it was immoral and unscientific - welcome aboard, FreedomSeeker!"
Clearly my shot at a good after-life is far greater than those who willing give their children a book that says that killing gays is the way to go, has dragons in it ("why did you ignore the science that I created, you fool!" god will say upon your death), and where the hero killed virtually all innocent animals on the entire planet (the "flood").