Should we allow Russia to decide who is elected president as the right wants?

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  1. jbander

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    You are in the wrong party , you belong with the rest of the goof ball right. I never said Russia elected Small hands. But it is clear that they did try to get him elected. I know people who voted for the scum bag because of lies. So yes if one person voted for Small hands because of Russia which I'm 100% positive that happened. Then they are part of the reason why the scum bag was elected. My guess is that it was millions but the number isn't important really is it. Its a mater of them doing it. His scum bag associates met with known Russian spies or people that did the dirt for Putin. You can play all the mind games you want with yourself but I'm clear enough about what happened to know that this is something that should not go away like the hate party wants. Their solution is say it didn't happen, well it did happen. I'm saying they would sell out this country by looking away on this and I'm going to do what I can to stop that from happening. And I'll do everything possible to get rid of this scum. Me being nice about it, is stupid, I know what happened and I know how dangerous this mental case is and I know that his cabinet was put together to destroy the departments that they are the leaders of and you think I should be nice. What a fricken joke.
     
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    All I know is that your simply a puppet and speaking the lies that the haters want you to believe , Globalist that goof ball crap. The right exists for the 1%, the democrats operate for the majority. Who cuts taxes and who raises taxes and who do they raise and lower it on. That line is so stupid. Simply watch what each party vote for and votes against. The right votes for corporations the left votes for issue that assist the people . Simply check out the votes over the years on programs to help the veterans. Then look who promotes the increase in military . You know Eisenhower's worning telling us to watch over the military industrial complex. They needs nothing. This country and our allies spend 3 out of every 4 dollars in the world for the military Are you that blind to think there isn't a major major difference between these two party's. Clinton raised taxes on the Wealthy , Obama raised taxes on the wealthy. Who in the hell do you think pays for Obama care. There is one massive tax cut on the wealthy that has made it so all the new wealthy of this country has gone into the hands of the uber rich for the last 35 Year Making Reagan one of the worst presidents in our history. No Group has seen their wealth increase but the top few. They didn't work harder , they didn't become smarter overnight , they didn't need it or earn it. It was just handed to them by the trickle down lie. Now Small hands tax plan will quicken the transfer of wealth to the top.The poor and the middle class has gained nothing in 35 years at the same time taking on massive debt to stay afloat. Who does that debt go to.
     
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    My title in no way said that Russia got your Scum bag elected. The right will look the other way to keep this sheep dip in power. There is Massive amount of information that puts the scum bag and his crew bantering non stop with Russian spies and Putin leg breakers. But you would have the investigation just dumped. You blindly will proclaim that nothing happened , well sorry buddy it did happen. My hope is that this will bring down the scum bag . we seem to be getting closer everyday to that.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Give me one; do better than the other many that have tried and failed.
     
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    Should we allow Obama to decide who is elected French president as the left wants?
     
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    Might as well, the electorate in this country seems incapable of electing competent leadership. Could the Russians do any worse?
     
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    You either have not read what I said or you are completely blinded by your bias. I previously made it clear that Russia did interfere with the elections.
     
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    People he thinks that Small hands the orange mental case doesn't lie, Here I'll give you his last comment on his first 100days. People can't stop laughing at this goofballs bullshit.From Jimi in another group. "
    Something like this:

    "We did so much in the first 100 days, we accomplished a tremendous amount with a tremendous team, you know nobody has had a more capable team, we've had some roadblocks sure, politics is dirty, I know, lemme tell you, I had half these people asking me for favors when I was in the private sector, so I know how this works, but we'll get there, they'll come around. A nation isn't like a business, I mean it's like a business but it's not, and everything matters more, and nobody understands that better than me, believe me, but we've got incredible things lines up, whether it's infrastructure, or the nuclear, or Korea, or North Korea, or Flint, with those pipes, I tell you, we're gonna fix those pipes people, it's gotta get done, it's gotta happen, it's just gotta happen. But let me tell you, these first 100 days have been great and we've gotten so much done, probably the most productive first 100 days of any President, although you'd never think that listening to the failing Wall Street Journal, have you seen what these guys write? Fake news, that's why their sales are so bad, I know companies, and that company is a bad one, let me tell you, if I'm such a failure then why are my rating so high? Highest ratings since 9/11, it's incredible, just incredible the way people respond to our message. And we will continue that message for the next 100 days, or thousand days, however many days there are, and we will make America great again."" There you go a whole pile of **** coming out of this clowns mouth. Best 100 days of any president , Wall street Journal is a bad business because they said something he didn't like. if I'm such a failure then why are my rating so high? Highest ratings since 9/11, it's incredible, just incredible the way people respond to our message. He has the worst record or support in history for any president at this time in their presidency and it is only going one way , DOWN DOWN DOWN!
     
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    Are you nuts , France isn't our enemy, and who cares about what happens in France ,so us doing something to France justifies and then and makes it fare game for Russia doing it to us and we should just let them because fair is fair and that means it Ok for Russia to do that to us. The clown car drove past folks.
     
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    Good then your saying you would support a major investigation into this then? I'll finish my quote your pointing out.. "There is Massive amount of information that puts the scum bag and his crew bantering non stop with Russian spies and Putin leg breakers. But you would have the investigation just dumped. You blindly will proclaim that nothing happened , well sorry buddy it did happen." I agree there should be at least 7 committees , no mater if all the previous ones said it wasn't true.
     
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    I have no problem with the investigation.
     
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    I had to stick your loaded title into your loaded statement in order to be able to respond intelligently to this short rant.

    Russia is an independent state with its own Body Politic and leadership.

    They are free to do whatever they desire to do.

    The USA is just as guilty of attempting to influence elections as the Russians are, no more, no less.

    Hopefully that is a helpful reply to your title and statement @jbander .
     
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    So it is OK to be hypocrites? Go figure.
     
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    Then we are on the same page. If you believe he wasn't involved or that it didn't have anything to do with the outcome. Then we don't agree on that.
     
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    Well I don't get the hypocrite point . I don't think this country should do any of the above but there is big differences, your more inclined to support your country then others, you more protective of your country then others and when it comes down to it, your country is way more important then other countries.
     
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    Are you nuts, so it is ok for Russia to interfere with this countries elections and decide who our president will be. Your bullshit is ridiculous,
     
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    You @jbander really need to get yourself an avatar so that I can decide whether I want to iggy you or not.

    Normally anybody like you who spams with ad hom's goes right onto my list.
     
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    Are you kidding me, I mean should I care, all I know is your wasting bandwidth. I know why also. The facts, as we know them, are on my side not the hate parties side. Little bit hard to keep to the subject when the specifics of a issue is totally against the bull **** your trying to sell. Maybe you should attack my spelling next. You have nothing.
     
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    I read claims it took no encouragement for Russia to spy on Democrats. Certainly we can all read the proof since it came to us from Democrats? When will I see the actual proof?
     
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    describe how Russia picked the president in detail please.
     
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    The electoral college gives all states a chance. The popular vote would not end up as the popular anything were we to have such a system.
     
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    None of that comes close to perjurious. It is opinion, exaggeration, marketing fluff, and much of it accurate. A pile of **** is not perjurious. When Trump says "best 100 days...." can you prove that to be absolutely false and then can you prove Trump knew for certain it was false and then can you prove it was significant or caused material damage?
    You guys have dumbed the meaning if "lie" down.
     
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    Eat it , Never said they pick anything I said you people in then hate party would just look the other way to stay in power
    all you people are goof balls , every time your mentally ill leader opens his mouth it's probably a lie, he doesn't know what truth is. I'll give you one of his quotes , tell a lie 3 times and you will make it true. His daughter in one of her books says the same.. . I'll explain stupid to you, it's saying that it is no longer a lie if it isn't Perjury . There has never been a president in history that Lies as much as your orange fruit.
     
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    a Chance, what the hell does that mean, if 10 people in a state has as much voting power as 2000 in another state , thats not giving a chance thats just nonsense.
     
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    It would be when the investigation is complete, but it is getting closer to the scum president every day. With The Nazi right wing head of the FBI trying to stop it from coming up with the truth. It will make it hard for the truth to come out.
     

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