Trump's unintelligible world salad

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    I've seen estimates in locales as high as 90%. But if we can agree that USA Today is a reputable source, I'll concede 40%: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ss-illegal-border-crossings-down-40/98935926/

    Which is still a damn sight better than the last guy who literally rolled out the red carpet... "dreamers" indeed.
     
  2. Injeun

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    I don't see anything shameful or laughable about Trumps words. Have you considered that the serious character flaw may be your own? Yes that's a rhetorical question.
     
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    Perhaps not shameful, but laughable.... Yes.

    Not sure if it's a mental disorder, or if he just has so many thoughts knocking about in his Mellon, that it's hard to maintain a coherent train of thought, & communicate it clearly.
     
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    No, laughable is the correct word. This man sounds like the guy sitting next to you on a bar stool.

    That may play on reality TV, or in the gotcha world of cable TV.

    But you don't speak like that in any professional setting, not if you expect to be taken seriously.
     
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    Our allies have been set for years and everyone knows who they are.

    Well North Korea does come to mind when thinking about who might nuke us. No I am not suggesting we go around nuking anyone conventional weapons can do the job nicely.
     
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    You need to reread my post and you will see I was not stating our troops were cowering in the corner, I was saying Obama administration was. I have the utmost respect for our troops as I was one myself during a time when people had no respect for our troops at all.
     
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    Whether you believe in the war or not Saddam did have WMD's, he just shipped them to Syria in the weeks leading up to the invasion and guess what Assad used some on his own people.
     
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    Probably. When NK gets effective missiles which will reach our shores do you really think he won't do it?
     
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    No, our allies are NOT set in stone especially with Trump's big flapping yap blathering away...allies can change with one of his tweets.

    How do we know a country is going to nuke us?



    We don't...so YOU are suggesting we just USE CONENTIONAL WEAPONS everyone first ?
     
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    You have NO proof that Obama was "cowering in a corner"...NONE whatsoever....

    See, with Trumpers if one doesn't beat on his chest and threaten to go war at the drop of a hat like some madman then they must be "cowering in a corner" .

    IF Obama had been "cowering in a corner" why were their troops fighting and getting injured??

    NO, you are belittling what troops did during Obama's administration...

    To prefer war over diplomacy is the depth of ignorance...
     
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    Not the way we treat them as of late. Pretty soon we won't have any allies left.
     
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    Diplomacy seldom works.
     
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    It is reasonable to assume Kim Jun Un(sp) will use a nuke on us if he improves his missile system.
     
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    :eekeyes: What!!!?? :roll:...and I was once called a liar when I claimed that most people have no knowledge of history whatsoever...here is definite proof.....

    Unbelievable that you have no idea that diplomacy is ongoing and has prevented many 'altercations"...try history of the world, there's lots of diplomacy in it...:roll:
     
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    Good, you keep avoiding my questions:

    ""How do we know a country is going to nuke us?



    We don't...so YOU are suggesting we just USE CONENTIONAL WEAPONS everyone first ?
     
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    Assumes extremist alt right factoids NOT in evidence!
     
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    A lot like the Alt Left's assertions that Trump, or his minions conspired with Russia to steal the election right?
     
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    Assumes extremist alt right factoids NOT in evidence!

    St Reagan ended the Cold War through diplomacy!

    Carter negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt through diplomacy!

    Obama negotiated a settlement with Iran through diplomacy!

    Nixon opened up trade with China through diplomacy!

    Diplomacy works when the parties negotiating do so in good faith.
     
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    BZZZT Wrong!

    Only to the unreasonable extremist alt right warmongers would make that assumption.
     
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    Reagan won the Cold War, through our ability to out build nuclear weapons.

    Obama's negotiations haven't resulted in any evidentiary way, any "settlement".

    50% ain't bad though.
     
  21. Derideo_Te

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    There is actual evidence of communications with the Russians. There is evidence of hacking by the Russians. The FBI is still in the process of investigating.

    So no, they not even remotely similar because there were inspectors in Iraq right up until Bush/Cheney illegally invaded.
     
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    The only reason they're not "similar" is because investigations are ongoing.

    As for Iraq, they wouldn't let the UN inspectors do their jobs.
     
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    So you are denying that there was any "Glasnost"? :eek:

    The failure of diplomacy is war. There was no war with Russia therefore the diplomacy worked. There was no war with Iran therefore the diplomacy worked.
     
  24. Just_a_Citizen

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    No I'm not.

    That Glastnost happened, due to Russia realizing they were broke, trying to keep up with the arms race.

    We're still in a holding pattern concerning Iran.
     
  25. Derideo_Te

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    There would be no FBI investigation without the evidence that I just outlined. Fynn was fired because he failed to reveal his contacts with the Russians. Then he tried to obtain immunity for his testimony because he knows that he was illegally colluding when it came to sanctions. Trump has already lifted sanctions on Russia.

    Compare all of that hard evidence to the bogus allegation about Saddam. He was under intense scrutiny and there were probably surveillance satellites and planes watching every military aspect of his regime like a hawk prior to the illegal invasion. Saddam had already destroyed his WMD after GW1 and the inspectors where on the ground at the time that this imaginary shipment was made.

    Nothing remotely similar at all.
     
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