Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders

How about using children as human shields; a bona fide war crime?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014...-used-human-shields-1200-times-2006-2011.html

 

Smart move. Adopt it if you are in the same scenario.

 

We hanged Nazis for doing the same. Were they 'smart' too? Interesting to note that you condone war crimes.

 

And I think you need to read the following: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014...-used-human-shields-1200-times-2006-2011.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4333982.stm

 

If US law enforcement tried to employ the same tactic here in the US, there would be a real Civil War (not just protests in the streets).

 

It's a real civil war there already. So er... what's to lose?

Save lives mate. save as many as you can.
If he won't shoot his kids, he won't shoot. You can save him.

Otherwise..gun fight. Him vs the IDF. You know the outcome of that as well as I do.

 

How come you're always talking about invading Canada?

 

No state demands a ‘right to exist,’ nor is any such right accorded to any state, nor should it be.
Mexico recognizes the US, but not its ‘right to exist’ sitting on half of Mexico, acquired by aggression. The same generalizes.

To my knowledge, the concept ‘right to exist’ was invented by US-Israeli propaganda in the 1970s, when the Arab states (with the support of the PLO) formally recognized Israel’s right to exist within secure and recognized borders (citing the wording of UN 242). It was therefore necessary to raise the bars to prevent the negotiations that the US and Israel alone (among significant actors) were blocking, as they still are. They understood, of course, that there is no reason why Palestinians should recognize the legitimacy of their dispossession — and the point generalizes, as noted, to just about every state; maybe not Andorra.

Noam Chomsky

 

Do you have trouble comprehending the words in the articles?

It's a 100% fact that Palestinians sent their children into Israel as suicide bombers, and instead of your side acknowledging how wrong it is I'm linked a video that disputes the claim made by the poster that 'children were being used as human shields' and three articles that fail to prove the poster's claim.

 

"Right to exist" and "Recognition of a State" goes hand in hand.

 

Children or adults, a war crime is a war crime, and that the IDF routinely committed these war crimes is also fact. It is also a fact that IDF 'soldiers' were brought to trial, convicted and given a token demotion in rank for having committed the same crime we would have hanged Nazis for at Nuremberg. There is no arguing with that, but your attempted dodge is noted.

 

????? They all do and is universally accorded to every state in the world except Israel.

 

Rubbish. If Israel were not recognised it would not be a UN member state. Out of 192 UN member states, 161 recognise Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel

 

I'll post you articles proving beyond any doubt whatsoever that the IOF have been using Palestinians as human shields. Then you can apologize to snakestretcher. Deal ?

 

Note it, write it in your journal. I watched the video, you apparently imagined something else happening. I won't excuse the two IDF soldiers that were convicted, are you going to excuse the people that sends children to their deaths to murder and maim? How many of them have been convicted by Palestinian authority?

 

Israel did start the Six Days War.

 

No, but you can apologise to me for your lack of reading comprehension.

 

Who has been accused ? Let's have a look.

 

You are a disturbed apologist.

 

Does that mean that you don't any details of any victims that you might like to slander ?

nahG;

Again- who are they ? Let's have a look.

 

LOL - This is true in Hamas' own mealy-mouthed dissembling way.

Hamas wages jihad against Israel because of its own religion - Islam. They're no better, worse or different than ISIS, al Qaeda and every other group of Islamist knuckledraggers.

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.

I will give them credit for admitting that they're illegal invaders, occupiers and squatters.

Jihadism is criminal by default.

 

All terrorists from Hamas can concentrate on is stealing foreign aid from their own people. The next time they will try to do anything real to destroy Israel it will be the begining of their own end.

 

Funny that neozionists and jew haters both have antisemisim as their life blood. Imagine having such a personal thing in common amongst enemies.

No clarification at all. Its even more doublespeak bullcrap designed for the gullible.

 

Er, that is the subject of this OP. The territory is defined as the 67 borders. Not that they will suffice but its a starting point for land swaps and the biggie that nobody seems to want to address. Palestine cannot survive as a nation of two ISOLATED provinces with no direct land or sea connections. Somehow, a secure guaranteed corridor or access between those two provinces must be established. Hence the land swaps that BOTH sides need in order for any resolution to take place.
And as for the Golan, that has nothing to do with the palestinians.

 

yeah the countries that do not recgonize Israel represent about 15% of the UN (31 countries) while 160 or so UN countries recognize the state of Israel.

For the time being, everyone can see that Hamas has no other choice at the moment and hence the obfuscation and insincerity rife within their "announcement". Hardly a breakthrough since its rather transparent.