SWAMP Act Would Make Donald Trump Pay For His Own Visits To Mar-A-Lago

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._5920659be4b03b485cb1f0d4?section=us_politics

    Past presidents have always had access to their own private property and the taxpayers have funded the bills for travel to and from those accommodations. That is an acceptable use of taxpayer funds IMO.

    However this is the FIRST TIME, to the best of my knowledge, that a POTUS personally PROFITS from the use of his own properties (PLURAL) at taxpayer expense.

    Why should taxpayers be lining Trump's pockets just because his property is a private resort? Where does the line get drawn in this instance? What if the next president had a resort in Bermuda instead? Would US taxpayers be responsible for a property in another sovereign nation?

    Should taxpayers have to subsidize the lifestyle of billionaires?

    Would this have been acceptable if it was Hillary or Obama doing the exact same thing?

    This is not a partisan issue because ALL taxpayers are on the hook for these bills.

    What makes this issue different is that should the POTUS of either party be allowed to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense in this lavish manner?

    Please feel free to provide your comments in a nonpartisan manner since this is a taxpayer issue and not a political one.

    TYIA
     
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    FTR I think that the choice of name for this act is inflammatory and detracts from the serious issue of wasting taxpayer funds. It would be better named the Prudent Use of Taxpayer Funds in my opinion.
     
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    Cut off all the federal cash being sent to sanctuary cities. Trump can use that to go to Florida.
     
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    You understand that these costs incurred all relate to security right? I'm not sure how much is spent on clan Clinton SS security detais, Obamas, Bush, or Carter either. They maybe should be handed a bill as well ...
     
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    None of those others that you mention PERSONALLY PROFIT from their security details.

    Therein lies the difference.

    If the Clintons were to be personally profiting I would have the exact same objection.
     
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    Naturally you find some distinction which ensures Trump should be singled out. Not surprised.
     
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    Your reading comprehension must be out of order.

    I specifically stated that I would have a problem with any and all presidents who personally profited in this manner irrespective of party affiliation.

    This is a NONPARTISAN issue.
     
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    It's a non issue period. The practical solution is to train military policemen to take up the physical security duties. They are paid far less than the SS, and haven't become accustomed to lavish accomodations.
     
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    SWAMP Act Would Make Donald Trump Pay For His Own Visits
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    To bad that he owns it. So who will he pay? Himself? Maybe his sons who are running his business?

    Tell me this. Does Trump have to rent out a resort like Obama constantly did? How many world class golf courses has he rented out during his 333+ rounds of golf? You know that costs a ton of money. Right? By having meetings at his place, he's actually saving the tax payers loads of money that would have been used to rent the place out. If he didnt own it like Obama
     
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    So you didn't read the OP link, did you?

    Obviously it is going to cost us taxpayers way more to fund your Golfer-in-Chief's weekends than it cost for Obama's weekends at Camp David.
     
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    I did. And I laughed at the stupidity

    So who will he pay? Himself? Maybe his sons who are running his business?



    His stay at Mar-a-Lago is free. He owns it. Remember? Do you spend money to stay in a home that you already own?

    The stupidity

    The only cost is in the form of security which would be implemented irregardless of where he is.

    Unlike Obama who mostly if not completely golfs for leisure. Trump golfs for bussines. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't most if not all of his golf games thus far have been in a professional setting? Meetings and negotiations between politicans, foreign leaders, or bussines men?

    While Obama was playing golf for fun; Even during natural disasters like floods. Trump golfs for work

    And since he owns it, it cost no money for him to rent it out.

    The cost of security is higher because Trumps immediate family is larger. The secret service has more people to protect which increases the cost exponentially. Especially if diffrent members of Trump's family stay at different places.

    Fake news outlets leave that part out while spinning thier stories
     
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    Thank you for admitting that you don't understand the concept under discussion at all! :eek:

    The Secret Service are paying Trump to stay at HIS resorts! That means HE pockets the PROFITS from what TAXPAYERS are paying to his resorts.

    Why should any president be making money at taxpayer expense?

    If those PROFITS were REFUNDED to the Treasury there would not any problem here. That is what is needed in this legislation to protect taxpayers.
     
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    Trump is only being paid $1, I clearly think he shouldn't pay anything to his security unless they plan to raise his salary into the millions of dollars.
     
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    If trump is being paid $1, he's being paid too much.
     
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    He's supposed to be paid a salary to do a job.
     
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    Never bothered you before.
     
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    Because no other prior president was enriching himself at taxpayer expense like Trump is doing.

    Are you overjoyed that Trump has his hand in your pocket and is helping himself to the contents of your wallet every time he goes to Mar-a-lago?
     
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    LOL, taxpayers would be enriching someone, TDS doesn't allow you to understand it doesn't matter who it enriches. Every president has a favorite getaway, why not one they like? Oh yeah, TDS.
     
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    Ironic!
     
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    I agree with you here. Trump should make those golf carts and any rooms used at his resort free for his entourage.
     
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    Are you upset that Obama never did anything really constructive in the real world?
     
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    Off topic deflection duly noted and ignored.
     
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    Ah yes, I keep forgetting about left wing hypocrisy!
     
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    Doesn't anyone get how much money Donald Trump has? He couldn't care less whether he pays for his own security or not. This will only hurt future presidents of either persuasion. This is laughable.
     
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    Unlike Obama who golfs for pleasure, Trump has been golfing for bussines. Meeting with world and business leaders alike. As well ad politicans to discuss and negotiate his agenda.

    If Trump had his meeting at someone else's resort to establish a causal bussiness meeting environmen, the secret service would still have spent that money to stay there. But don't try to veer this conversation somewhere else.

    Your central point, the reason for this thread, is

    [“President Trump is on track to spend more during his first year of office than all eight years of the Obama administration combined,”]

    Are you suggesting that the cost of secret service renting out a few rooms is 97 million dollars? Little less than half of what Mar-a-Lago is actually worth?

    I thought not. Because that suggestion would retarded.

    The only cost is in the form of security which would be implemented irregardless of where he is.

    The cost of security is higher because Trumps immediate family is larger. He has many children who are high profile people in their own right. The secret service has more people to protect which increases the cost exponentially. Especially if diffrent members of Trump's family stay at different places like they do

    Fake news outlets leave that part out while spinning thier stories
     
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