Germany Admits It Owes Greece 278.7 Billion Dollars

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  1. Baff

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    The time for the Greeks to vote for change was before their govt borrowed all the money. Bit late to vote them out now.
    About 20 years too late.
    They could have voted them out at any stage but instead they put their hands out for a share of the loot.
    Well there isn't anymore loot. The free money has ended, and voting for some more doesn't change that.
     
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    Oh then it's not racist to say the Germans should starve the Greek people to death... the way they did in WWII, but it's racist to support a plan to kill Germans. Interesting!
     
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    Oh Jeannette DEAR :blowkiss:

    You do like to feed them, don't you. :lol: :blowkiss:

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    Having live trapped and relocated 19 squirrels / 4 months from my suburban home garden,
    I do suspect a neighbor is feeding squirrels. They go where the food is.

    BTW I do not believe the Morgenthau Plan would have resulted in the loss of life claimed by the plan's critiques. The failure to support it was another example of giving Churchill too much "say so" and the loss of life critics thus validated. Point: The allies were feeding the German population. Not starving them after they occupied Germany. Likewise FDR who supported the Morgenthau Plan.

    Remember it was the end of The Second Thirty Years War 1915 - 1945 and which side was Germany on? The Morgenthau Plan addressed this problem.
    Thought of as The Second Thirty Years War, creates some new ideas in oneself.

    Racist? Gimmie a break.

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    They wanted to leave the Eurozone so they could drop the value of the drachma and solve their economic problems and then re-enter. But Brussels wouldn't allow it. In the meantime Washington had a seminar for the reporters of the foreign owned networks teaching them how to convince the Greek people the debt was sustainable when it was not sustainable. The Greek people were deceived big time in favor of the banks.

    The Greeks never put their hands out, they were left with no choice because Merkel forced an austerity on them which hindered any growth in the economy. They lied to the German people that they were being generous and supporting Greece, when it was Greece that was supporting the German economy through the interest rates.

    The Greek people never saw a penny of that money. It all went back to Germany. The little that remained after the interest was paid off, went to the German industries to buy arms.

    The austerity that Germany imposed so the economy wouldn't grow and the poor would suffer, was deliberate ... and they said as much to the economist Veroufakis when he made suggestions as to how the economy could grow and they could pay off their debt.

    It's a big scam!


    Are you brain washed? Since when is a loan with interest rates free money?

    But that's okay, the jig is up for them. The EU is not going to survive because of the German government's underhandedness and greed. I give it the most 2 years.
     
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    Yes racist and genocidal. Must hurt you alot that Germany regained its old power.
     
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    Jeanette if they wanted to leave the Eurozone, they would have. No one can stop them.
    In the end, they thought about and they preferred to get more bailouts.

    The Greeks had their hands out for 20 years Jeanette. You only noticed them when the hand outs stopped.

    Greece isn't supporting anyone through interest rates, you have to pay the money back before lenders can make money on you.
    They never did. Their lenders got bailed out by people like the German government. They covered Greeces debts.
    It was that or lose the banks who had lent to them.

    The Germans didn't impose austerity on Greece. No German is there with a gun to anyone's head.
    What imposed austerity on Greece was 20 years of bad economic management. Of government paying more out that it took in. For 20 years!!!

    Germany shares it's know how on economic management. It's a free lesson from the experts. More than free, it comes with help you out money.
     
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    Trump call out German economic, predatory practices.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-called-germans-apos-224332980.html

    Trump Reportedly Called Germans 'Very Bad,'
    Vowed To Stop German Car Sales In The U.S.

    During a meeting with top leaders of the European Union, President Donald Trump said “the Germans are bad, very bad,” according to participants in the room who spoke to German newspaper Der Spiegel.

    In January, Trump threatened to slap a 35 percent tax on German auto imports. “If you want to build cars in the world, then I wish you all the best. You can build cars for the United States, but for every car that comes to the USA, you will pay 35 percent tax,” he said. “I would tell BMW that if you are building a factory in Mexico and plan to sell cars to the USA, without a 35 percent tax, then you can forget that.”

    Trump’s new comments impugning the Germans for exporting cars were made in a meeting with the European Commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, and the European Council president, Donald Tusk. Juncker, Der Spiegel reports, supported the Germans.

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    It absolutely is their problem. That's why they bailed them out.

    Eh, why? The Germans aren't going to take command of Greek finances through force. A default or partial default seems increasingly likely.

    And this IS a problem for the Germans, because the Eurozone is important to them. Political and economic instability threatens the Eurozone.
     
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    You think after all this time the Germans did not figure out a way that a defaulting Greece will hardly harm them?
     
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    No, because I think the Germans are taking the Eurozone for granted. There's a reason the Germans are so gung ho about giving the Brits a good slap over Brexit.
     
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    The problem with the Greeks is they want all the advantages of being in the EU but don't want to work for it or be taxed for it.

    People in the United States are listed as the nation with the Worlds Most Productive Workers and as I have been all over Europe between the French throwing their country into multiple month long strikes over a 0.5% or 1/2 of 1% increase in Wine Tax to the Greeks who get upset when they feel working over 30 hours a week is TOO MUCH.....well.....there is a REASON why more Toyota's are made and exported from the U.S. then they are from Japan!! LOL!!

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    We showed what we do then. We did it in 2015 for two weeks. Our finance miniyter cut greece out of the system and their pensioners were collapsing on the streets. If needed we do that again.
     
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    Doesn't seem like a strategy that'll make your Eurozone partners happy to be under your thumbs. The Italians and the French might be willing to play along for now, but once Greece leaves (and it WILL leave) you might see the whole system collapse.

    The unrest in France might be mostly directed at Muslims now, but eventually their eyes will go east.
     
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    Macron is Merkels candidate. His entire cabinet is pro german. Hollande was anti germam butbgot domesticated. Greece already is reduced to a protectorate. All greek airports and infrastructure are now german property. Also all northern european nationd stand 100% to us. The baltics and dutch say we germans are too soft to the greeks. :)
     
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    This is a cute Altay tank ...
    But you already know that this is not a turkish self-development, but rather the South Korean Black Panther, which is again a mix of many tanks including Leopard 2?

    Anyway ... your statement of "giving a damn to stupid German tanks" is in itself swindling, because all 350 Turkish A4 are brought to the booth of the A5 + installation of further things from the A6.

    It's so ridiculous too, because besides Germany and Turkey, these 15 countries here all give a real damn on it when using it and having no plans to replace them?

    Chile, Denmark, Finland, Greece, Indonesia, Canada, Qatar, Netherlands, Norway, Austria, Poland, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden, Singapore, Spain.
    And if we take still the countries where in their own developments more than 50% Leopard 2 license is, then it will be more .. e.g. Japan and Italy! And if one still takes those who would like to have it, but do not get it, then there are more, e.g. Saudi Arabia!

    And last but not least, the American M1A1 / A2, the Israeli Merkawa and also your great new Altay and others all use the 120mm cannon and weapon system of the Leopard 2 as used up to A5 version (from A6 the cannon is longer and more better!).

    So ... who's gives a damn on it? I'd rather say your post had been more childish defiance, eh?
     
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    They'll be no slapping's from Germany.
    We are allied on too much, ideologically and practically.

    France is where the UK slapping will come from.
    Germany gets it from them too.
     
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    That damage has already been done. That money already written off.
    No one believes Greece can or will repay.
    No one. Their debt is junk status. Probably cost you 1 pence per £ they borrowed at this stage. It's currently valued at 1% of what it cost to make. A 99% loss.

    Germany is going to vote not to bail out Greece, perhaps. That is what they have figured out.
    That they don't have to and they won't get any respect if they do, they will just get the blame.

    Time for the old horse analogy.
    Every day I see my horse I give him a mint. He loves them.
    The first day I forget a mint now, he will bite me.
    Because that's his way of asking for his mint. He was expecting it and wants it.

    Pointless to act in an unselfish way only to get branded as Hitler. But that is the way of things.
    When you help people out financially, most don't say "thank you", they say "you should have done more".
    Resent you for it.

    Way of the world I'm afraid. Human nature.
    It is way easier for the people of Greece to blame Germany than it is to face up to their own responsibilities.
    Oh yeah WW2. Righto. Not got much to do with things any more Greece. Sorry.
    Come back when you grow up.
     
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    Then maybe it's time for the EU to decide whether keeping Greece in the union is better or worse.
     
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    Because German cars along with the Japanese were killing American car industry. Trump did a right thing there and I think that's what every other nation suppose to do. They create a sneaky monopoly within other nations which actually means an economic take-over attempt. Volkswagen emission stuff I believe was the first sign to stop this globalist take-over. However, then Monsieur Trump fell into the wrong hands and started with some seriously aggressive neo-con sh.t in foreign policy. He's still being blackmailed by the deep state US via his family's alleged ties to Russia...
     
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    Aside fact that Mercedes, VW and BMW are building the cars in the USA and do not Export them from Germany ... what was the Point of this dumbass in White House again?
     
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    Lol...

    I wear blue jeans made in Germany. But wait, they are not actually German "self-made" (whatever the hell that means), but rather French Nom De Guerre which is again a mix of many jeans rooted back to Levis Jeans... But wait, that even mix of heavy hard cotton trousers of migrants from Genoa, Italy, whom were called by the French as the "Genes", a French word for Genoa, which later became "Jeans" in America. Are you always this funny or is it because you support Merkel the Nazi? :)
     
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    Merkel and Nazi ... LOOOOL!
    The real Nazi is sitting in Ankara and can be called the newe Turkish Hitler Version. Will be intersting when he starts to build up concentration camps ... o wait .. he still did and Arrest all who are against him, like Hitler did as first step after January 1933! :-D
     
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    The dumbass wants cash stay in the country. However some other dumbass thinks because there are factories in the USA, there's no FDI tax advantage and besides thinks the cash earned stays at the country the FDI was made...
     
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    Merkel supports NAZIS of Ukraine. She's a NAZI. Sorry :(
     
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    Damn Nazis !!!!
     

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