Wake up, liberals: There will be no 2018 “blue wave,” no Democratic majority and no impeachment

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    In case you missed it ... Trump back in January, placed his hand upon the bible and recited the oath of office. That's it, shows over. Sworn to serve as POTUS until January, 2020. Any delusions to the contrary, are purely manifestations of serious mental health issues.
     
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    Because it's people on the left currently responding to me. If someone on the right jumps in and tells me how wonderful Trump's wall will be then I'll let that person know just how much of a knuckleheaded idea I think a wall is.
     
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    Trump has said that he shares Andrew Jackson's views regarding treason.
    The clandestine Deep State spooks who are attempting to decapitate the USG must assume that Trump will not actually deal with them as Jackson would have.
     
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    It is easy to make predictions, it is much harder to make accurate predictions. IMO it is unwise to underestimate the left like the left underestimated the right during the last election.
     
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    The wall is a far more humane approach to keeping people out than mine fields.
     
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    I pity America; I really do. As for 2020, I guess you forgot about the small matter of an election in less than four years. If Trump lasts in office until then it'll be a miracle. The serious mental health issues of which you speak are all Trump's. Here's the definition of a sociopath. See if you can find anything which doesn't describe Trump's character with pinpoint accuracy. Enjoy: http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
     
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    Oh, in name only? Then why all the protests? If he's president in name only there's nothing he can do to harm the country because he has no power. A guess that'll be a big relief to everyone.
    Someone should contact MSNBC and CNN.

    "Breaking news! Nothing to fear. Trump is president in name only, he can't do anything. All protests cancelled."

    He won. He's president. The democrats can jump around screaming for 4 years and then lose again or they can build a positive platform, find a great candidate and then win the next election.
     
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    Correct. Trump should have ordered the DOJ to unleash several grand juries to investigate every serious allegation of official crime as soon as he took office. RP overconfidence is every bit as irrational as DP overconfidence.
     
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    How many women do you allege were humiliated? What do you mean by insulting allies? And what disabled were mocked?

    Tell me this. What politician do you see as being pure?
     
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    Because there isn't one.


    Democrats Aren’t Winning

    And yet, the Democrats still aren't winning.

    In the three opportunities they've had to deliver a brushback to Trump through special U.S. House elections, they've failed. These districts are undoubtedly conservative-leaning, having not been held by a Democrat for decades, and in one case, Democrats still have a shot to flip a seat in Georgia next month.

    But for all the raised expectations on the left and the hand-wringing on the right, the results have been the same, underscoring just how difficult it will be for the minority party to claw its way back into power. Trump is weakened, but far from vanquished. Republican candidates may be flawed, but their loyal constituencies are showing up to bail them out – if only to rebut the narrative they're constantly hearing permeate out of Washington.

    But as reporters on the ground scoured for signs of the favored candidate facing a crisis, the evidence they turned up was scant.

    "Close only counts in horseshoes," Democratic strategist David Axelrod tweeted Friday. "Outside @gop groups outspent Ds 6-to-1, unleashing a ceaseless barrage on Quist with no counter. Will this be the norm?"

    "Another question is whether in cycle [Democratic candidates] should expect the same infusion of cash online as those running in specials," Axelrod said. "Probably not."

    Of 30 House GOP seats desired by Democrats, 23 of the incumbents won by more than 6 points in 2016, and 17 of them won by more than 10 .

    But observers can be assured that if Democrats had emerged victorious in any thus far, it would've sparked a fusillade of headlines and coverage portraying a coming doomsday for the GOP.

    What's true is that these early elections are showing the limits of the Democratic resistance that has bubbled up across the country and into the streets. It's proved powerful, but not transformative.

    But so far, Democrats aren't winning......snip~

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-run...erscores-limits-of-democrats-trump-resistance
     
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    Why?

    If what the Democrats say is true, MILLIONS of likely Democratic voters will die as a result of the new healthcare bill.

    Dead voters don't vote except in certain areas like Chicago which are already Democratic.
     
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    LOL yea :)

    I'm not against what building the wall is meant to accomplish. We shouldn't have millions of people illegally coming into our country. I just don't see it working plus I don't like the optics of it. It just seems so anti American.
     
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    O right I forgot Republicans don't get sick, my bad...
     
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    There are neo liberals who claim to be progressives and then there are real progressives. Learn to tell the difference. I won't hold your hand.
     
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    I'm happy to know you're educating youself about mental illness. Early detection helps to avoid crisis. Recognizing the early warning signs of progressive psychosis is key to suicide prevention. Good luck.
     
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    Yes, it's a pity nobody recognised Trump's issues. Never mind, it's your country and Trump is your problem. I'm simply waiting for the popcorn to be passed and enjoying the best comedy provided by America since the Keystone Cops.
     
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    Trump has done a pretty poor job of draining the swamp. In some cases he has added to it.

    People tend to have a starry eyed view of democracy. They don't consider that an elected official, even the President, still doesn't have ultimate power. They are beholden even in the powers they do have to the broader system.

    There simply is no single person who could be elected to fix certain things. You HAVE TO make concessions to neocons and socialists because that's how politics works. If you don't, your house of cards will tumble.

    The only real and lasting change can occur in the people. That's the place where the most agency occurs. Unfortunately, the people are incredibly distant from their government. In 1782 New Hampshire residents enjoyed an extremely minimal national government based on the unanimity principle, much like the EU today (but without all the bureaucracy). In their state each representative had 2300 people in his electorate.

    Today Congressional representatives average 700000 people. This makes any meaningful political action on the behalf of the individual impossible in practice. Nobody knows their representative personally.

    We have become too distant from grass roots democracy.
     
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    You do have a valid point, but Trump's base wants it, and he was elected to build it.

    If the USG can find another way to get the crossings close to zero without The Wall his base might prefer that he save the money and give the savings to the working class. He could frame the question at a rally - after the illegal crossings have virtually stopped. Voice vote. ;-)
     
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    State socialism is socialism nevertheless.
     
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    Trump or some other populist can always resort to the ultimate populist WMPS, Weapon of Massive Popular Support. An offer to cut the hell out of government and give the money back to the long suffering productive American working class.

    There is no money from the special interests for that, but very few would actually vote against it. ;-)
     
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    I think Trump should find a place on the border, say about 20 miles long, a place that really needs a wall. Then have the government start building the wall there and only there.
    Trump can then say to his supporters and the world hey look we've started building the wall.
    Trump then moves on to other things and everyone forgets about the wall. It'll take the government years to build that little 20 mile section. Trump will be able to claim he's working on the wall without really ever building it, other than in that tiny piece.

    He's already cut the illegal immigration flow drastically just from his rhetoric. The video of a wall, even just a tiny section, being built will stop many more people from trying to cross the border.

    What I'm saying is the threat of a wall is about 90% as effective as a real wall and is 100% cheaper.
     
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    Excellent citation. The more Dems try and rely on this type of response (anything but a real self-assessment) the more out of touch they seem.

    Its a party in disarray.
     
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    About that. The schism between lefties and liberals isn't going away and is in fact growing.

    At the same time-any lack of a uniform front means the democrat party fails to hold real power.

    How is that going to be addressed?
     
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