Wake up, liberals: There will be no 2018 “blue wave,” no Democratic majority and no impeachment

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  1. snakestretcher

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    Your excuses are pitiful.
     
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    Wait, I did not see Obama as great shakes. I rank him below Abe Lincoln who I rank close to last. Abe due to his invasion of a good chunk of what we call the United states. And the deaths of 630,000 who clearly would not have perished had he simply not invaded.

    I do not and never will understand even the Democrat favoring historians so highly ranking a man of his ilk. Abe to me would have rose to greatness had he never invaded but spent proper time working it all out with the South.

    630,000 dead Americans does not make a great man.
     
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    No, I countered a pitiful argument quite accurately and with a high level of knowledge. Next time, come with your A game.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey, I personally want you around. But you are walking a fine line. Check rules please.
     
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    Reagan is probably the only other candidate elected to beat down the political class. The PC survived like the metastatic cancer that it is. Hence Trump, a far more radical choice. Radical, and tough enough to do the job? To be determined soon.
     
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    Mind your own business. Thank you.
     
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    I think that is still true. Hence, the RP's success in sweeping the DP from power in DC and in the states, but the RP's now very visible duplicity in its clumsy stupid efforts to destroy Trump can send them swirling down the same flushing toilet that has already captured the DP.
     
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    Campaign finance reform is needed badly. No corp contribution. ONLY individuals. That's it.
     
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    You are still unable to answer my rather straight forward question.
    "Again: what are the differences between national socialism and socialism?" Dd

    Why is this so difficult for you? ;-)
     
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    Yes, and ordinary Democrats, and the serious radical Left were already turned off by the violence of the corrupt political class and its street agents when they elected Trump by taking down the DP Blue Wall.
     
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    really?, demoghrics just aren't on the side of poorly edicated white christians , trumps base


    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...mps-movement-will-soon-literally-die-off.html

    Even his rubes in jesusland are turning on the orange fecal matter for cutting their food stamps and cutting their medical care with medicaid cuts


    his base

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ics-amidst-soaring-Caucasian-death-rates.html

    http://time.com/4585232/white-deaths-exceed-births-united-states/


    doesn't look too good for the white christer party as soon as 2018

    blackmen laughing.gif
     
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    A single digit loss in a deep red state that Trump won by 20 points just a few months ago is hardly a :huge loss".

    The fact that the guy probably won some points by punching out a reporter doesn't say much for the Republican Party.
     
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    Are you a fund raiser for Planned Parenthood?
     
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    Are you getting personal? Robert reports people who do that. Maybe he'll report you...
     
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    No but it says plenty ABOUT them.

    The party of thugs and dictators. Trumps little plan to undermine the foundations of democracy are coming right along with his cult members.
     
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    Yeah those Neo Cons just can't cover their tracks, and would be expected to collude with the Demos. Hence Bush lite coming out talking about how he knew Trump would have a chaotic presidency.
     
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    1. Montana still has elected Democrats in high office, Montana is not even a Republican state. Trump is opposed by the DP, the RP and the "conservatives". Montana against the corrupt political class and this for Trump. Montana is red white and blue - like Michigan, Ohio, PA, and WI.

    2. The fact that a Republican won points by punching a "reporter" says a great deal about how repulsive Fake Journalists are to American voters now. They need to clean up their act and start reporting the truth - for a change.
     
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    How was this Guardian reporter a "fake journalist?

    And for the record he punched the reporter out for asking an uncomfortable wuestion about Trumpcare that he obviously couldn't answer without screwing himself.
     
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    You mean the long promised "Blue Wave" isn't hitting the nation in 2018?

    Sanders revolution hits a rough patch

    Bernie's supporters struggle to capture the actual levers of power.

    Young people registered to vote, and small donors opened their wallets. Economic issues like the minimum wage and student debt were pushed to the forefront of the presidential debate. From big city rallies to the backwaters of precinct-level elections, the progressive movement breathes new life in no small part due to the Vermont senator.

    But nearly a year after Sanders’ presidential run fell short, one thing is missing in the afterglow — victories at the ballot box.

    The losses are piling up. Earlier this month, Democrat Heath Mello, whom Sanders campaigned with, failed to unseat a Republican in Omaha’s race for mayor. Kimberly Ellis, the candidate endorsed by Our Revolution, the successor group to Sanders’ presidential campaign, lost a fiercely contested race for California Democratic Party chair. And on Thursday night, Republican Greg Gianforte bested Rob Quist, another Democrat for whom Sanders campaigned, in a nationally watched House race in Montana.

    Speaking at a victory party, Gianforte called the election proof “Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi can’t call the shots here in Montana.”

    Following Quist’s loss, progressive Democrats took solace in their candidate’s unexpectedly close showing, with Quist heralding the “energy” of party activists in his state. On the West Coast, Ellis’ supporters clung to the promise of increased representation at the party’s lower rungs.

    But that’s not the same as actual control of the levers of power, and the optimism belied the difficulty Sanders’ supporters have had turning their enthusiasm into electoral success.

    “We’re really good on the messaging, and the rallies … But it needs to translate into votes.”

    In California, a heavily Democratic electorate in November rejected a drug-pricing initiative Sanders championed, while Colorado turned down a measure that Sanders rallied for to create a universal health care system.

    After the 2016 election, Sanders faced an even higher-profile setback: The Democratic National Committee installed a prominent Hillary Clinton surrogate, Tom Perez, as its chairman, defeating Rep. Keith Ellison, Sanders’ preferred choice. Sanders-aligned candidates were rebuffed in California, Florida, Iowa and Maine.

    The limitations of the Sanders movement were nowhere more apparent than in the open congressional race in Los Angeles this spring, in a district Sanders carried last year. While Our Revolution has since endorsed Jimmy Gomez, a state assemblyman with a progressive record in Sacramento, two primary challengers with Sanders ties — Carrillo and Arturo Carmona, a deputy in Sanders’ presidential campaign — together received barely more than 10 percent of the vote.

    “The test is whether you turn out for an election, right?” said former California Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez, an Ellison supporter who was an early favorite in the House race before he dropped out with a health condition. “They didn’t turn out and organize for either of the Bernie candidates in the Jimmy Gomez race. So instead the guy who gets cast as the most institutional — Jimmy — and the guy with the least credibility as a Democratic candidate — (Robert) Ahn — move forward. So that tells me there’s nothing sustainable about the way in which they engaged in that race.”

    Even when Sanders supporters have organized aggressively, the effect on elections has been marginal. Early this year, Sanders supporters in California flooded into long-ignored, district-level meetings at which one-third of state Democratic Party delegates are selected, seeking to leave their mark on the race for chair of the nation’s biggest state party.

    While the race did not fit neatly along ideological lines — Eric Bauman, the establishment favorite who prevailed by a narrow margin, is a longtime supporter of progressive causes — the powerful California Nurses Association and many Sanders-aligned delegates rallied around Ellis, a relative newcomer, packing the state party convention this past weekend and highlighting intra-party divisions still simmering after the November election.

    “Shut the f--- up or go outside,” John Burton, Bauman’s predecessor, told liberal activists at one point in the proceedings.

    “Obviously, it’s not a lot of fun to run in elections and not do well,” he said.

    Carrillo, who described the progressive movement as “going through some growing pains,” said “the left, or the progressive wing of the party, just needs to be better organized on getting votes out.”

    She added, “We’re trying to figure it out.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/29/bernie-sanders-ballot-losses-238889

    Not getting stoned, until after you vote on election day might help.
     
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    Many on the more well informed Left voted for Trump. I doubt they will ever vote for another candidate from the political establishment. There is a lot of that across the spectrum now. ;-)
     
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    You and Vegasgiants appear to be soulmates.
     
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    What strikes me is how anyone could call themselves Republican or vote that way
     
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    Let's hope that Trump's FBI, Trump's Justice Department's special counsel, the Republican-run Senate investigative committee, and the Republican-run House investigative committee drag out their probes into trumpery scandals longer than their "immediate!" repeal of 'ObamaCare.'

    With Ayatollah Pence eager to oppress, it's in the interest of the nation to have the Mar-a-Lago Lardass on life support for the duration.

    Mueller will be trumpster diving for years!
     
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