Illinois Comptroller: "The State Can No Longer Function"

This will be fine. Democrats love the living wage, the living wage will drive consumption and tax receipts, the Land of Lincoln is saved!

Chutz-Pocrisy Dept.: Dems Fight for $15 While Paying Interns $0.00

 

The way so many of you are viewing these events through a partisan filter is appalling.

The devil is in the details, but with the vitriolic comments displayed on here thus far it is no wonder why political leaders have become ineffective. They are trying to appease a constituency that no longer will accept compromise. This is a divided nation. The cancer of partisanship has hit stage four.

For all of your whining about the Obama years, we managed through them intact, but the Right's irrational revenge will herald in the apocalypse of this great country. Just look at the speed with which we are plunging into a future of dystopia all to just make a political point. Either it is motivated by complete ignorance or willful malice...at this point it's becoming clear it doesn't matter which.

 

Hmmm, you say divisiveness is the problem, then blame the right for what both parties are doing.

I think you are seeing things with a pretty heavy blue tint on things.

 

I know right, good grief that's pretty bad.

 

Where is that "appeasing by political leaders" occurring? With nancy pelosi creating her "resistance group." With democrats publicly crying to impeach Trump within the first month of his presidency? Where Hillary finally emerging from her personal storm more avengeful than ever and blaming everyone but herself for her demise? Or are you suggesting the media is trying to appease the radicals' behavior, that would be the biggest lie of all.

Yes, but you make it sound as though both sides are equally to blame. Or is the amount of blame meaningless? Because I assure you those on the right would not be so frustrated and angry if it were not for this insane anger and attacks by the incorrigible leftists in public displays, by the hateful words of Hollywood celebrities, by elitist professors fomenting revolution and disallowing speakers to visit their campuses, by the demented democrat politicians perseverating on Russia and charges with no base, and by the extremely complicit media loving it and exacerbating it all. That is why it has hit stage four. The Right would be glad to let Trump try to work with congress and see if his endeavors get voted in or not. No one will allow it to even go that far.

Oh, please. That is highly debatable. I see a lot of aftermath from 8 years of changing the mindset of this nation and of total cowardiceness and lack of leadership from that Administration. I will not elaborate.

Already disputed and addressed above.

I may have to agree with you on that... although the future appears to be now.

It matters. The greatest problem is with the individual. They have no idea what really matters for their own soul and family and what is of far lesser importance in the grand scope of life and worries.

 

Trump is the official Liar in Chief. From the size of his inauguration crowd and forward, hardly a day goes by that he doesn't verbally lie or tweet, not just a half-truth, but outright lies. The Comey firing was the straw that broke the camel's back and no one is to blame for this other than Trump.

Only the Right seems to still want to continue to flog Hillary. Hillary is out. She's lost. Short of her walking on water, there is no way she will have any significant say in the DNC for the remainder of her life.

It is the RIGHT that voted for a Reality Pop Star "billionaire", one who even to this day has kept his income tax returns from public scrutiny!!!

And as for the Russia thing, again, who was the one who begged Putin during the election to go after Hillary's emails???

The amount of denial of your Orange Saviors own stupidity is unfathomable. Even the Right realizes the toxicity of this president which is why they haven't yet walked in complete goose step, and for the foreseeable future may fracture even more.

What's not debatable is how quickly this president is alienating us from our longtime allies and has bumped us down from the position of world leader. Of course, for the faithful, it will take a test of fire to prove to them the precarious orbit Trump has moved us into on the world stage and unfortunately I see that test coming just around the corner.

It's one thing to talk about the differences in economic theory, or how big our government should be as viewed from the traditional lens of the Left and Right, but we are dealing with a man who believes in what is only expedient for him. He is beholden to no one and is as unpredictable as a falling feather.

 

Would you rather have a predictable politician who gives his country away to illegal immigrants for votes and future support of their offspring? Or maybe you want a politician who talks conservative but has no spine and no will to fight for his agenda? America is tired of business as usual from both parties and Trump has his warts, but so far, he is our best shot of getting out of the status quo. It may never happen, but at least we have a shot at congressional term limits, balanced budget amendment, and putting American interests before those of the rest of the world. Trump wasn't my first choice, but he was our best choice in November 16. If you don't like it, find somebody better and support them.

Illinois should become a territory and lose all power in the federal government until they balance their budget and become solvent. I don't want to bail out their corruption and stupidity.

 

Thanks for your entire response above Texan. Somehow you manage to stay more calm about it all than I can.
All those Trump haters seem to have one thing in common. They are totally blind to just how criminal and dishonest and self-driven was Hillary. Not to mention totally incompetent and a frantic weirdo. They will not dare read the books or hear the quotes of those who worked with her. This woman was a greater disgrace to this nation than the mainstream media --- if that were ever possible.
Trump does not speak well or explain himself well, but his intentions are honorable and his ideas are far, far, far better for this nation's economy and security than anything the democrats have ever thought of in the last 30 years.

 

The animosity in politics today is the fault of the left. It is they who want to tear us from our roots and "fundamentally change America". It is they who are violently protesting in the streets. They are the aggressors.

 

Yes. That's the idea though
I don't see why neighboring states would want to take on someone else' problems (assuming they would).

 

That will go over like a led zeppelin. Just as soon as landlords raise their rents and retailers raise their prices, they'll be right back where they started.

No, we don't. The people of Illinois need to suffer. The people of Illinois chose this path, by voting for the wrong candidates all the time.

Watching the people of Illinois suffer will provide great motivation of the people of the other States & Commonwealths to vote correctly in the future.

 

Mississippi has dibs on Chicago.

 

Actually we must all remember most of the counties actually supported Trump and some as much as 80%. It was Cook County where Chicago is that gave the state to the Democrats. It's not really fair to say the state is nothing but liberals. Many Republicans live there too.

 

That is not really fair to blame all of Illinois because of of Cook County where Chicago is. Without Chicago the state would go Republican every time. Most of the counties supported Trump and some as high as 80%. Many Republicans live in the state but can't compete with Chicago.

 

Was there a recovery? very little, if any, and now it's time to pay the piper.

Government cannot produce a recovery unless it gets out of the business of governing. It can stave off the pain for a bit, but it's a limited recovery like using morphine to stop the pain. Eventually you have to stop taking morphine, and then the pain comes back.

It's not like the government produces a profit, so how can government create a recovery?

 

Over in this universe, the recession stopped, then the stock market double and then some.

There was over six years of improved job growth.

Over in this universe.

So much better than a recession.

 

Lol. Lemme guess, you have never had a fixed income in which you had to budget.
When everyday people fail to budget and spend according to their income, what happens? Do you think they go to their employer and say this salary isn't working for my lifestyle, I need an increase?
Your comment is right in line with someone who has never worked to pay for their independent living costs.

 

The government produces nothing.
Anything they touch turns to crap.

 

The job growth is cooked numbers. Sorry, but there is a difference between a job picking up dog poo at minimum wage and welding pipes at 50 an hour. One pays the bills, and the other doesn't. How many welder jobs due to demand from the market were started as opposed to chucking dog turds into a plastic bag.

I know you will ignore this, but it is a complaint that many have had concerning the Obama recovery. If you don't want to take into account what jobs were created, that's cool, but realize that you're kinda just woofing nonsense as far as I'm concerned.

 

You are acting like he doesn't support the policy that has upended Illinois finances.

 

I agree with that 100%.

 

We went far into authoritarian central government for 8 years, and you plead for compromise. Now, we are merely trying to separate some of that central power, and you describe it as a future dystopia. Wtf? Where's the compromise now?

 

By about .8%........

 

Just think: Most, if not all, of the peope running Illinois went to college. So whichever colleges they went to they never learned squat about finance and management unless it was how to steal money. It would be a good idea if students went to different colleges than those idiots did.

 

You're partly right! As I've said at least a thousand times, we need to overhaul the entire U. S. Tax Code to eliminate ALL tax write-offs, tax shelters, tax loopholes, exclusions, exemptions, and all the other tax-evasion bullshit which are, frankly, used by the rich!

I have nothing against the rich, but I've got a LOT against the U. S. Tax Code which is not fair at all! We don't need to jack tax rates up into the stratosphere... no... all we need to do is get rid of all the damned gimmicks and loopholes that allow the rich to pay little or nothing and that would be the end of the problem.

Hint: why do the rich employ armies of tax attorneys and tax accountants? So that they can pay a genuinely FAIR share of taxes...?

And notice -- neither "Fat Cat" Republicans nor "Limousine Liberal" Democrats have shown in any sincere interest in completely re-writing the U. S. Tax Code to get rid of the loopholes. The ugly truth is that together, they laugh all the way to the bank!