THere is something WRONG with the empathy, or lack, of right wingers.

I might like it.

Question is, WHO provides the opportunities? What is the actual wage they can't refuse? And, most importantly, who pays for this?

Wouldn't a far simpler solution for Fed. com and other government bureaucracies to get out of the way of those who wish to start a business, which would require people to fill jobs? Going back to farmers needing field workers; take away their opportunity to employ illegal aliens and force them to pay a competitive wage to attract workers. Allow those workers to unionize. (I'm very pro-union, except for when it comes to government employees).

We'd pay more for our groceries, but this would mostly curtail our illegal alien problem and allow those who work in the trades to also to once again earn a livable wage. Fast food jobs could go back to being a job for teens.

This is how the free market operates. Why more leftists wouldn't support this is puzzling for me, except for their desire to create an underclass and dependency for votes.

Re child tax credits? When did it become the job of the IRS and Fed.com to manipulate social mores through tax credits. Flat tax, period...

 

That would be Oregon. Two good Senators and a pretty good representative for my area. Not much concern for drought. Cooler summer weather. No fracking. No oil drilling. No tornadoes or hurricanes. Vote by mail. What's to not like?

 

Not only that but it is the Marxist Democrats that were willing to let SSDI go bankrupt in 2016. It's a damn good thing the GOP was able to save it. And all the Marxist democrats did was whine about the GOP doing it!

 

That poster actually lives in CA, probably of all the states, the most socialist of all ... and complains they give him trouble?

Wait, he said disability. This happened during Obama. So he blasts Trump???? Or republicans???

They ought to thank us for saving the program.

 

Succinct and wise. I applaud you!

Liberals are driven by negative emotions - jealousy, envy, and greed. It's why they hate so much. I seem to remember something from the "Kelly's Hero's" movie about "negative vibes, man, negative vibes". That describes liberals.

 

There are two ways that I can think of. One is strictly a federal/national function, and the other can be by state. The first would be to claw back excess income from those who have been making a killing while ignoring workers who helped create the wealth. And that means a new top tax bracket, or to roll back taxes to what they were when Reagan took office. Then use that money to fund infrastructure projects of all types (to put it briefly).

The second would be for states to pass pro-worker co-op legislation like the Marcora law in Italy and the laws recently passed in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, "Nacolina", Texas, California, New York, and Colorado. Then work to actually create worker co-ops. Their record on wages and job stability is impressive.

Deregulation certainly is simpler, and disastrous. It was tried with very bad results. Study labor conditions including child labor in the very early 1900s.

Well maybe, but I have no problem with green cards for temporary immigrants to tend crops.

Create dependency? That is a right wing line and if true it would entail obviously illogical and unreasonable rhetoric and laws, and it doesn't. I don't see any unreasonable ideas on immigration coming from Democrats.

Well, maybe eliminate the child credit. But a flat tax? No way. It would be a gift to those who don't need it, and a hardship to those who cannot afford it.

 

Orange county does not and never has run the program you claim you can't collect from. And you live in a socialist state. Why hasn't our state made all the freebies you crave available to you?

 

You must be on the receiving end of your neighbors earned wealth, not the giving end.

 

Hey slanderous guy, I'll bet I'm worth twice what you're worth.

Clearly your only reason for posting was to attack me.

 

That was not libel nor slander. It was written and were you accurate, it would be libel. But there is nothing malicious, ergo it's a comment is all. Were you attacked?

Since you now boast you are a very wealthy person, why are you anti those who earned it, keeping it?

I compare this to a baseball game.

Hitters range from 000 batting average up to .750. Your system takes from those doing the hard hitting and hands runs to those who bat a zero. It simply makes no sense to me.

Take Bill Gates for instance. The richest man on earth or close to the top. How has he hurt this country?

 

You progs had your chance with obamacare, you made a bad situation (that you created) into a much worse situation. Its time for all the progs to shut up, sit down, cry if you want to, and let the big boys take over.

 

Interesting. I'll check out the Italian law.

But what is "excessive income"? $1 million? $100,000? $5 million? What about those who are building businesses but continue to invest and grow their business, which creates the need for more workers?

And how do businesses "ignore" workers? Isn't the purpose of unions to bargain for their employees? A free market, where workers were paid their true worth, would ensure fairness.

It's disingenuous to use child labor laws from over a century ago to form your argument. It was a vastly different society, economy and culture in the U.S. then.

As I said, I'm pro-union, as long as Fed.com stays out of the bargaining process. I also oppose those 'right to work' states that have virtually eliminated unions, but I can see why and how that happened; too much federal interference in the market, either by pro-worker or pro-business politicians that tainted the bargaining process between companies and their workers.

The free market has been the best arbiter of labor and wages.

Why? What is wrong with forcing farmers to pay a market-based wage? Green card holders simply lower wages for everyone.

A caveat to this, of course, is taking away taxpayer support from healthy young adults. Otherwise this wouldn't work. Why do leftists oppose this? Except for obviously importing future Democratic Party voters and retaining current Democratic Party voters, of course.

You don't think illegal immigration has impacted low-skill workers in the U.S.? Why should our government also allow low-skilled legal immigrants? It was leftists led by Ted Kennedy who changed U.S. immigration policy in the 1960s to allow the change to importing low-skilled workers.

Why did he and other leftists do this? Because they knew the new immigrants would vote Democrat.

They, as well as Chamber of Commerce type Republicans, have the blame for the poverty of native low-skilled workers. You'd think U.S. blue collar workers would have turned away from the Democratic Party decades ago instead of this most recent presidential election. And they would have, if not for leftists forcing taxpayers to support their constitutes.

California has instituted a new gasoline tax; everyone, regardless of income, pays this tax. Why can't this be done with payroll taxes?

The less a person pays in taxes, the more they'll spend in our consumer-oriented economy. Under our current system the middleman, in the form of Fed.com, takes far too big a cut to redistribute. But this is what leftists do in order to purchase votes...

 

You get a different surgeon. But I don't think there is a surgeon in the world who would recommend performing an operation like that on a 102 year old.

That's what I'm saying. Treatment will depend on the doctor and the patient. Not the insurance companies, government, politicians... Just the two people involved.

You're not reinventing the wheel here. All industrialized nations in the world (except ours) offer universal healthcare. And many third-world countries do too.

 

Uhh... this is a pile of crap. First of all it is the Left that is the biggest hate group in America and Bernie Bros specificially that seem prone to violence. From the murdered in Oregon to the Baseball diamond shooter, we have Bernie Bros engaging in violence against the innocent.

And, Bernie and his wife are being investigated $10 mill in bank fraud?

Holy ****!

If you want to help the poor, by all means, do so. But what you are always seeming to advocate is the forcible taking from others, in order to "redistribute" their goods to Leftwing voters. And that too, is bull ****.

 

Still kissing Trumps ass trying to blame Obama for Trump doing nothing, and the Republicans making matters worse. I don't suppose you bothered to read the article, I know how hard it is for the low educated right wing to do such hard work. Taxes the mind too much, or what little mind they have:

http://aapress.com/health/us-china-reach-agreement-on-fentanyl/

BTW, do you ever actually research a topic, or do you just always speak out of your ass?

 

How can anybody who is serious say that the idiot who shot the republican congressman represents "all the left"?

Obviously because you heard it from Hannity or Rush or ... some other one of those clowns. But you lose all respect and credibility.

 

We have a Congressman who doesn’t feel safe without a gun after having colleagues gunned down by a crazed Bernie Sanders supporter:

When Republican lawmakers came under fire during a June 14 baseball practice in Virginia, they were trapped by a tall fence with one exit. Thanks to armed officers guarding House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, only five people were wounded.

But although members of the congressional leadership are provided security details, the rest of us have to count on luck. “When congressmen and senators are off the Capitol Hill campus, we are still high-profile targets, but we have zero protection,” Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama told John Lott of the Crime Prevention Research Center. . . .

At least five congressmen at the baseball practice have concealed handgun permits in their home states. At least one aide also has a permit. Others may be reluctant to announce publicly that they do, since part of the benefit of carrying a concealed weapon is that potential attackers do not know who is armed. That’s why uniformed police have an almost impossible job stopping terrorist attacks. A uniform is like a neon sign flashing: “I have a gun. Shoot me first.”

In 2015 the Daily Caller surveyed 38 conservative members of Congress, asking whether they held a concealed-carry permit. Thirty declined to answer. Of the eight who did respond, six had permits. Jerry Henry, executive director of Georgia Carry, says that as of last year nine of the 10 Republican congressmen from his state had a concealed-carry permit.

An aide says that when Rep. Barry Loudermilk is speaking at public events in his district, “they always have someone with the congressman who is carrying.” Likewise, when I’m home in Kentucky, my staff and I carry weapons.

But the District of Columbia’s gun regulations meant no one had a permitted, concealed handgun at the congressional baseball practice. Virginia, where the attack occurred, honors permits from any other state. But as Mr. Brooks explained: “My residence is in the District of Columbia, which means that it would have been illegal for me to take my weapon with me to the ballpark—about a 9-mile bike ride—and it would have also been illegal for me to come from Virginia back into D.C. with my weapon.”

Both Rep. Brooks and the Loudermilk aide say they believe the attack could have been ended much earlier. The aide, who asked to be unnamed, has received active-shooter training and remained behind a car 15 to 20 yards from the attacker. He believes he could have shot the attacker from his position and ended the attack “probably four minutes earlier.”

It’s not just members of Congress who need this right, and I’m happy to see that this proposed legislation doesn’t just apply to Congressmen and their staffs: “That’s why I have introduced legislation to allow people with concealed handgun permits from any state to carry their permitted firearms into the District of Columbia. It’s a miracle that only five were wounded at the Republicans’ baseball practice. Next time the results might be even more devastating.”

 

Not all the left, obviously.

But tell me where the shooter's political views were different than Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Saunders.

There do seem to be, based on their words and actions, many unhinged leftists out there who have worked themselves into a frenzy. Some threaten, some march, some break stuff, some physically attack those they disagree with, and some shoot down congressmen...

 

There is a LOT that today's radical conservatives are being driven by... greed, racism, illogical fear of and animus toward others different from themselves being significant components of what moves them.

This really explains a lot, in my view.

 

Claiming that it is illogical is interesting. Care to back that up? Explain the fallacy, if you can.

 

"Not all the left"? Do you really think that this exonerates the poster from a gratuitous generalization? That statement is, in itself, another such generalization. And the problem is that Hannity, Limbaugh and all those clowns live off of such generalizations. It has two advantages: 1- it allows them to attack the opposite side and 2, it is easy to understand and accept by people with low IQ, which forms the majority of their faithful audience.

In that Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders don't advocate or condone shooting people because of their political views.

As would be obvious to anybody with half an ounce of intellectual honesty.

 

Yes, the tyranny of strict constructionism. Replacing the will of the people with a hands tied might as well be a computer deciding everyones fate and positions. Particularly the supreme court.

 

Funny, so You still have no proof that Obama ever applied sanctions to China, and are complaining that Trump hasn't solved a problem that Obama already substantively dealt with. You know once you eat your cake you can no longer have it, at least not in a form rational people would want.

 

Calling Republicans the party of death or claiming we're killing millions of people isn't violent at all=) How interesting. And again, Hannity and Limbaugh still pale in comparison to the entire MSM and Hollywood. Hannity is on for an hr a night. Rush is on for 3 hrs. The MSM is 24/7, everwhere. CNN is the go to station in nearly every airport, waiting rooms. The nightly talk shows are hrs on every channel. The NYT and a bunch of other papers are 24/7. NPR is a big audience and its as leftist and biased as it gets.

The MSM painted ALL REPUBLICANS, as violent monsters during the election. They pulled no punches. Videos from Liberal plants causing violence at Trump rallies were played 24/7. Your selective outrage is pathetic.

 

Exactly.

People with insurance receiving excellent medical care still die daily.
People with no insurance can call an ambulance, go to the emergency room, and have their lives saved. While not paying a penny.