SUPREME COURT WILL REVIEW TRUMP TRAVEL BAN, ALLOWS IT TO TAKE EFFECT IN MOST INSTANCES

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  1. Grokmaster

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    Because the ban never took effect. It is to protect the American people from islamist terrorists, which, of course, the asinine left objects to.
     
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    So they can't improve vetting if they ban didnt take effect? That makes no sense
     
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    I just love how unraveled the liberals are getting now that the adults are ruling.

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    This Muslim travel-ban is not, and never has been, solely about a travel-ban. It is and always has been foremost about Trumps desire to deport. (Muslim and ''other undesired alike''.)
    Or, as Trump has called it, a Muslim register database. (Which is, of course, a deportation data-base.)

    This so-called travel ban was just a lame excuse by Trump to seek leverage (permission, if you will,) to unleash his ideology of racial purity on the United States.

    More so, this was all about Trump seeking empowerment to claim his rule. Nothing more, nothing less. He'll take the decision of the Supreme Court as such and he'll extract total abuse from it.
    'You see? The courts are on my side! The courts are my friend! Now I can do anything I want. Anything! So, let the Muslim deportations begin...'

    And after that we could have deportations of other ''Trumps-unwanted''. How about a homosexual deportation-database, while we're at it..?

    A lunatic has just been given the keys of the asylum. Now he'll ran riot, believing he's King of the common room.

    It's been a bad day for democracy. Not even because the travel ban might, legally, be ruled right or wrong or right or wrong or...

    But simply because a psychotic opportunist will suck every ounce of abuse out of his perceived victory.
    Like that Austrian man in 1933, after his election as Germany's Reichs Chancellor...
     
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    I was skeptical reading about your idea of a homosexual deportation database, but then I realized that Trump is a CHRISTIAN, and just like Islam, god/Jesus/Christianity hates gays (kill them in Leviticus, and don't let them into heaven in 1 Cor. 6:9-10, etc.) Jesus has had 2000 years to say "ok, look, god and I screwed up for not condemning the Bible all these years - we've changed our policy and will now allow gays into heaven - please forgive us". I'd forgive Jesus, because I'm of course better than he is. So Trump would be just like Jesus by not wanting gays in his country, just like the bigoted Jesus won't let gays into JESUS' bigoted invisible "country" up in the sky. I think Jesus and Trump are both barbarians.
     
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    If you're a citizen, you cannot be deported
    If you're an alien legally in the US, you're already registered.
    If you;re an alien here illegally, there's no reason to NOT deport you.
    So how do you think you have something here?
     
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    Let's say a Muslim woman marries a non-Muslim guy, and then.....wait.....er.....I just thought of something - Mohammad said that Muslim women CAN NOT marry non-Muslim men. Ok, let's try that again - a Muslim MAN marries a non-Muslim women, and she loves him so much that she wants to accompany him on his "greatest journey" (to Mecca for the Hajj) - yet "moderate" Muslims today could care less about her, they don't complain to the Saudis about that - because Mohammad said that she's "unclean" to she can't be in Mecca. This hatred has got to stop.
     
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    If Muslims can keep non-Muslims out of Mecca, then it's reasonable that non-Muslims can keep Muslims out of their country if they choose.
     
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    That is the funniest thing I've read today.......thanks for sharing.
     
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    Apparently, someone got him wet and/or fed him after midnight.

    And then, this:
    :lol:
     
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    Well hello! We agree totally. Saudi Arabia should be number 1 on the list, why is it not on the list?
     
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    Politics and oil traded in the greenback.
     
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    Do you have any idea why it isn't? Because I sure don't.
     
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    OK so what? The KSA did not send them here.
     
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    Msg #104. The KSA is not a country on the brink of total collapse with no internal security let alone one that does not work closely with ours.
     
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    And many of the terrorists who killed innocent Americans came from Saudi Arabia, including one 18 short months ago. If that's them working "closely" with our country, let's pass.
     
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    Again I am not questioning the need for "extreme vetting" of immigrants/refugees/visitors from failed nations. My question was regarding the Trump administration's seeming inaction on developing the necessary processes of that extreme vetting, REGARDLESS of whether the travel ban was implemented or not. Seems to me that one is not contingent on the other and Trump has always had the necessary authority to create and implement immigration regulations.

    If it was so urgent and such a national security issue, why haven't those extreme vetting procedures been developed and put into practice yet?
     
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    Supreme Court Reinstates, Mostly, Trump's Travel Ban;
    Dissenters' Argument Is That They Should Have Restored All of the Ban


    The only limitation the court is permitting on the travel ban is for those who have a bona-fide pre-existing close relative in the country or bona-fide, established-previously business in the country. Such persons may visit the country.

    But for all others, the Trump ban is back on.

    Incidentally, the opinion doesn't even mention Trump's campaign statements, suggesting that the Court views this entire insane line of argument to be so illegitimate as to not even be worth a rebuttal.

    This is a decision about a preliminary injunction -- the Court has struck most of the lower courts' injunction against enforcement of the ban down. But the case has not been heard in full on the merits yet. That'll happen later -- but it's not looking good for #TheResistance.

    The resistance's greatest legal victory has been gutted, and not even Ruth Bader Ginsburg accepted its most extreme arguments.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/370398.php
     
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    I don't have something here and neither do you.
    Trump has something. (And after today a lot more, thanks to the Supreme Court.)

    Validation.

    Today Trump finally received that what he has sought for the last 6 months. (And probably his whole pathetic life.) That what he can't get from the people or the press.
    Today the Supreme Court ''VALIDATED'' Donald Trump as President of the United States.
    You and others might not look upon it like that but rest assure, Trump does! THAT is what this victory means for him and that is how his pathetic man-child brain works.
    He'll probably tweet about it soon. Or launch a nuclear missile in celebration, for he's as nuts as Kim Jong-un.

    Today's travel-ban ruling wasn't about the rule of law. It became about the eroding of the law.
    Do not underestimate the psychological impact. The rules of law as you described merely exist by the opinion of mankind. They can be changed or interpreted differently.

    Trump won today because his ideology on segregation won. And Trump will make damn sure he'll extract that ideology out of his victory, simply because he feels validated he can.

    The Supreme Court today validated Trump as a racist.

    I hope you see the danger in that. The rules of law you described are not immune to the cancer of fascism, as witnessed today.
     
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    Correction. You have nothing.
    The ban supports absolutely none of your claims.
     
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    Who cares about he ban..? This is about Trump. All he wanted was a 'yes' from the Supreme Court, regarding the travel-ban, so he can feel validated in
    unleashing razzia's on peace-loving American Muslims.

    Those razzia's are now a step closer once Trump has executive-ordered all American Muslims to be rounded up for registration.
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    Politics, the birther base needed a whistle and The Saudis will only trade oil in the greenback.
     
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    9-11 was an aberration and, to the best of my knowledge, the Saudi government wasn't to blame even for that aberration.

    Of course some kind of deal was struck with the Saudis that will strike some as c orrupt, some as naive, some as Machiavellian, and others as just realpolitik.

    "I have never suggested that the Saudi or members of the royal family directly supported or financed the 9/11 attacks. But official Saudi money ended up in the pockets of the attackers, without a doubt." Simon Henderson, Foreign Policy magazine. http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/18/what-we-know-about-saudi-arabias-role-in-911/

    This reminds me of the "ties" of Trump to Russian meddling, as well as the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Everything is connected to every thing else if you reach far enough.
     
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    Tell that to the Jews of the second world war. Oh wait, you can't because they've all been rounded up and deported...
     

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