Justices Thomas, Gorsuch blast court decision to reject gun rights appeal

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    This was a big case here in Commie-fornia and we hoped that the SCOTUS would hear this case and stop these Fascist alt-left wackos here in Commie-fornia.

    But things didn't go as planned. The SCOTUS decided not to hear this case.

    It seems that the 2nd Amendment is not cherished as is all other rights.

    Clarence Thomas's dissent is something for the History books. Here's just a small portion of his dissent...
     
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    Concealed carry has generally always been an issue the SCOTUS leaves up to the states.
     
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    I agree with the decision.

    But, wow.

    It looks like Gorsuch doesn't even have a mind of his own.

    He seems to have adopted the EXTREME RW views of a SCOTUS Conservative Reactionary like Thomas.

    Does anybody think that Gorsuch will ever be on the opposite side of Thomas in an SC decision?

    At this point, it is redundant to even have Gorsuch hear the case.

    Just give Thomas 2 votes.
     
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    While I agree, the problem here is California is that we don't have the right to Open Carry either per a law put in place over 2 years ago. So in essence, our Right to Bear arms has been taken by the Government.

    What is really called for is national reciprocity. Californians and many others are being denied their 2nd Amendment Rights. The Bill of Rights is a NEGATIVE Rights document, yet the SCOTUS is allowing laws to be made which take away our right to bear arms.
     
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    Strange you think you have no gun rights since California had record gun sales in 2016.
     
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    Of course we had record gun sales. We didn't trust Barack Obama and the Democrats and for good reason. They passed a no Open Carry law and there is no Concealed Carry in most places. Many Californians have no 2nd Amendment rights to bear arms.
     
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    You have the right to have one in your home so Heller is satisfied
     
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    A gun in your home is not "bearing arms". That is the right to "keep arms". You do see the "and" in the 2nd Amendment? Bearing arms is the ability to possess firearms on my person whether at home or not in public places that do not have significant security concerns.

    I care what the U.S. Constitution says and my God Given rights. The 2nd Amendment is a Negative Right's statement. It has been violated by the California State Government and the SCOTUS is letting it happen. All they are really doing is making thousands of normally law abiding citizens criminals.
     
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    Apparently you don't care what the Constitution says since the framers left most of the militia powers up to the states and keeping arms would be when you place your weapon on a table and bearing it would be when you picked it up.
     
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    Gorsuch is a textualist. If you're surprised by his opinion here you don't strongly enough grasp the concept.
     
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    That is not how the Federalist Papers read. But, thanks for your input.
     
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    It does't break my heart that people radically supporting this aren't all walking around with weapons. I only want balanced people carrying weapons.
     
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    What if someone had a right to free speech-but only in their homes?
     
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    He was surprised Hillary lost. Why wouldn't he be surprised about a strict constructionist?
     
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    Our gun rights in California is dwindling fast. Please help us before it is too late.
    • It is illegal to open carry in California.
    • California is not a "shall issue" state. You need a "good cause" to get a CCW permit and "self defense" is not a good enough cause here.
    • Magazine capacities of over 10 rounds are illegal.
    • All ammunition purchases will soon have to have the same background checks as buying a gun.
    • A semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine must NOT have a pistol grip, folding/collapsible stock, or a flash hider.
    • 50 BMG rifles are banned.
    • 10 day waiting period from the time of purchasing a gun to the time of picking it up.
    • CCW permit holders can not carry on school campuses.
    • All home built guns (from 0% to 80% builds) must have a preassigned registration number.
    • etc. etc. etc.
     
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    What a load of crap!

    The Constitution doesn't say that.
     
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    The 2nd Amendment is not a states rights issue.

    It's a Federal issue.
     
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    I feel the same about the four extreme alt-left wacko justices that don't give a crap about the constitution and just want to push their social justice crap on all of America.
     
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    That's not what the 2nd Amendment says.

    The 2nd Amendment doesn't restrict where I carry.

    Please try to understand simple English.
     
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    Why is the 2nd Amendment restricted to our homes, but not the 1st?
     
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    Heller says that you can own one in your home. The Liberals tried to stop even that; showing everyone how authoritarian they are when given power.

    Heller had NOTHING to do with carrying in public (concealed or open). Your post is dishonest.
     
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    But who is the militia ?

    10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

    (a)
    The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

    (b)
    The classes of the militia are—
    (1)
    the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2)
    the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246
     
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    I agree with them 100%. The California SSR is routinely stepping on the rights of Americans, including their power of referendum.
     
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    Americans need to see whats in store for them.
     
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    "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
    — George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
    Ratification of the Constitution
    , Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788
     

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