How come Trump and Sons will only go on Fox News?

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    # but Hillary
     
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    Obama did on several occasions.
     
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    I would like to know what kind of thrill they got while cutting the tail off baby elephants. I wish mama elephant got a hold of those
    two disgusting excuses for a human being.
     
  4. tres borrachos

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    Obama gave interviews to Fox News in 2008, 2013, 2014, and 2016.
     
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    Wait - what?? Who cut the tails off baby elephants?
     
  6. tres borrachos

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    Except for the 4 times Obama went on Fox News.
     
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    Maybe when the quit lying and pushing their agenda. Currently the press is irrelivent.
     
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    Actually we are *NOT* moving further from transparency. In just 150 days, Trump has done more interviews than any other President in history. In just 150 days, Trump admin officials have testified in front of Congress on more issues than the Clinton, Bush, or Obama administration did in 150 days. Do you even know who Obama's campaign manager was for 2012? You do for Trump because she is continually in front of the press giving out information.

    Trump himself has spoken to the people more in 150 days than Reagan himself did. Rallies may not be press conferences but it *is* Trump being transparent and speaking his mind to the people.

    Why do you suppose so many people keep saying Trump needs to stop tweeting? That is Trump being transparent. Why does the lamestreammedia think he needs to stop being transparent? Because he isn't going through them so they can distort his message?
     
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    I read that his sons did that.
     
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    Killing Trump supporters with facts.
     
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    Are you ****ing kidding me? I knew they were trophy hunters, but I didn't know they took it that far. Disgusting.
     
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    When you said:

    I don't know why you would deny saying something, when we can just go look. The internet "saves" automatically. You don't have to do anything on your end, guy.
     
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    Who's whining? For whatever reason you think the things you're posting contain information anyone center or left might care about. I won't speak for anyone else, but I certainly don't, and I don't really see a reason to engage in a debate with someone when their mind is already made up and they will never be swayed by anything that's said. Seems like the hallmark definition of insanity to me.
     
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    Well the community organizer couldn't find a way around the Super Bowl.

    Which brings up a yuuge question, will Tucker Carlson be filling Bill O'Reilley's shoes or will it be Fox and Friends ???

    The pre NFL season question:

    Which POTUS had the biggest impact on the NFL in history ?

    Has to be Richard M. Nixon.

    Remember back when Nixon took on the NFL blackouts of home games ?
     
  15. tres borrachos

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    I have no idea who's filling O'Reilly's shoes, nor do I care. I stopped watching him after 2001.

    As far as the NFL, all I care about is the freaking Giants not losing in the ****ing playoffs again, and Eli Manning earning his bloated salary.
     
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    All I care about is the Green Bay Packers beating the **** out of the Giants.

    But I digress.

    In just 11 weeks the first NFL game of the season will kick off and there will be no community organizer telling NBC to interrupt the game so he can lie to America about "hope and change we can believe in." :applause::banana::clapping::rock_slayer::gop::cheerleader:

    A few days later on Sunday night the N.Y. Giants will rip the Dallas Cowboys a new ********.
     
  17. tres borrachos

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    ACK! Didn't know you were a Packers fan. I won't hold that against you.:handshake:

    I HATE the Cowboys. HATE them.
     
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    So do I.

    But the most famous football game ever played in history has to be the "Ice Bowl" The 1967 NFL Championship Game. Actually the AFL-NFL World Championship Game. Dallas vs, Green Bay.

    Now that's how football is suppose to be played. "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night will prevent America being America and playing football." That was the the days before PC indoor arenas.

    That was back when the fans were allowed to storm on the field after the game and tear down the goal post and take a piece of history home.
     
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    Indoor arenas are for sissies. That's why I have no respect for the Vikings or the Lions. Play outdoors or don't bother playing at all.
     
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    First off, no he did not break the record for most interviews in just 150 days, he went on a near 50 day interview drought that he broke by going on Fox News. I don't know where you are getting the idea that he has done more interviews than any other president, but I am going to have to ask for a source on that

    Second, none of those things represents transparency. He can hold a rally and talk about the specific things he wants to talk about, he can go on twitter and only address the issues he feels like, he can go nearly 50 days without an interview, and then go on Fox to avoid answering any of the tough questions he doesn't feel like answering, furthermore, blaming the media as a whole isn't exactly proving your case.

    Hell, the guy is the first president in over 40 years who won't even release his tax returns, and now they've removed the white house's visitor logs from public view, while completely removing live broadcasts from the white house press briefings. It is of course still early in this presidency, but we are definitely not moving in the direction of more transparency. Not by a long shot

    Yes, I said that transparency is a right protected under the law, but I also said we still have transparency (duh). I never suggested that any transparency laws were being broken, I said we were moving in the direction away from transparency, which is true. If not for our laws on transparency, we might not have any at all with this administration
     
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    I believe 1947 was Meet The Press' first show.
     
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    You are correct. I was imprecise. Trump has spoken to the public than any other president in history over the first 150 days. That includes interviews with journalists.

    It's only transparency if you assume the man isn't speaking his mind. And Trump had an interview with ABC News on Jan 26, 2017. Just a few days after being sworn in. He had an interview with Jim Gray on Feb 5. He had an interview with CBS on April 29. He had an interview with Tucker Carlson about March 18. He interviewed with CBN about Jan 30th. What is this "50 day interview drought"?

    So what? Why do you want to see them? The IRS has them. They've had them for a long time. You've seen one of his summary forms. Are you just wanting to criticize him for being rich?

    Obama's staff stopped having meetings in the WH so they wouldn't be on the logs. So what? I thought the pool reporters are supposed to be keeping track of who comes in and out? Are they not doing their job?

    Again, SO WHAT? Are you accusing the WH press corp of incompetency in letting us know what happens in the briefings? If not then exactly *what* are you accusing Trump of?

    Most of the whining about this is from reporters who think their careers are enhanced by people seeing them ask questions. How about not panning the camera onto the reporters? Just keeping it on the podium. Do you think the complaining would be any less?

    I love the hypocrisy. The political pundits all complain about how Trump is *too* transparent because of all his tweeting and that he needs to stop it and then they, and you, whine that he isn't transparent enough? Which is it?

    The problem you have is that Trump is *MORE* transparent than any other President. We get tweets from him on current issues and his agenda practically every single day. That is *far* more transparency than we have *ever* had from *any* President!
     
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    Again, tweeting and holding rallies doesn't represent transparency. This discussion is basically debating figurative transparency vs literal transparency. I'm naming actual changes that show we are moving farther from transparency. No one is saying he is being too transparent with the American public, the closest thing to this complaint being an actuality was when he shared classified information with a Russian official, but this wasn't something that was shared with the public, it was leaked.

    As for the interview drought, it was a near 50 day interview drought when he gave a Fox News interview on May 13th, after that he spent a good 40+ days ducking reporters and communicating almost exclusively through twitter, a lot of which was him calling for actions against leakers (even thought these were non-classified leaks) and then he finally ended that drought by giving an interview on Fox News again. So its basically formula of personal rallies, Fox News, and twitter. Any source where he would have to answer the tough questions is off the table

    As for the importance of tax returns, it's about knowing our political leaders' financial interests. It was pretty damn important to know that Hillary Clinton was making millions giving speeches for banks and insurance companies. The very same people she claimed to be "standing up to" were the very same people who were paying her. For Trump, we know that he had investments in Raytheon stocks as recent as 2015, if he never sold those stocks, then he would be in clear violation of our federal ethics laws which state that all public employees must remove themselves from making policy decisions that they have a financial interest in... and no, the releasing of the tax returns is not something that is specific to Trump, every other president and every presidential nominee over the past 40 years has released their tax returns to the public
     
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    MALARKY! How do you think people learn what the President is thinking? Reagan used to give speeches to the people via TV. So what is the difference between that and giving a speech at a rally other than the number of people that see it directly on-site?

    When you complain about Trump tweeting you *are* complaining that he is too transparent to the American public.

    Your "claimed" leak was by an anonymous source and, as usual, has bee completely debunked! And you won't why so many conservatives believe the LSM is equivalent to FALSE NEWS?

    How could it be a 50 day drought on May 13 when he gave an interview to CBS on April 29th? Can you count? Do you know your months?

    Why? The IRS certainly knows his financial interests. Apparently none are illegal. As a Politically Exposed Person (which he has been for a long time) his financial transactions receive strict scrutiny from the Financial Action Task Force, a federal inter-department group whose charge is money-laundering and terrorist financing.

    What do *you* need to know that these people don't know already? I'm pretty sure I know the answer and it isn't to look for errors in his tax return. it's to enable castigating him for being rich!

    Most of that money was going into her foundation. And the foundation records are open books. Just like Trumps. But no one can find anything bad in the books on the Trump Foundation, can they?

    And the people didn't know that NOT because the information wasn't available but because the LSM never bothered to look!

    [quote[ For Trump, we know that he had investments in Raytheon stocks as recent as 2015, if he never sold those stocks, then he would be in clear violation of our federal ethics laws which state that all public employees must remove themselves from making policy decisions that they have a financial interest in... and no, the releasing of the tax returns is not something that is specific to Trump, every other president and every presidential nominee over the past 40 years has released their tax returns to the public[/QUOTE]

    As far as I can determine on the internet Trump listed *NO* stocks on his FEC financial filing. Since they are *assets* and not income they should have been on the FEC form. I suspect we would have known long ago if he failed to list stocks that he owns. Please note, the stocks would only show on his tax returns if he actually got income from them. I have no idea what Raytheon pays for dividends, if any.

    None of the past Presidents have had nearly the business interests that Trump has. According to his FEC form he is associated with over 500 separate entities. There is probably a good reason to not release all this tax information. It could give competitors valuable information they could use to hurt him. And nothing requires the President to take financial losses just to satisfy the curiosity of people wanting to attack him politically!
     
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    Trump complaining about leakers, and throwing out insults over twitter hardly represents transparency. Again, when you stick to a formula of twitter, Fox News, and personal rallies, you allow yourself to avoid all the tough questions. The Catros make TV appearance and personal rallies too, that doesn't make them transparent.

    As for the near 50 day interview drought, I used the term "near 50" because it was a little under 50 days.. and I don't know why you thought I was counting backwards from May 13th.. he gave an interview on Fox in mid May, and then ducked out of any other interviews until June 21st when he gave an interview on Fox News again. The only reason why I pointed this out was in rebuttal to the inaccurate claim that he had set a new record for most interviews by a sitting president.

    My overall point is we are moving farther from transparency with this administration. Contrary to what your posts suggest, he is not holding personal rallies and posting on twitter so he has a platform to answer the tough questions. Furthermore, you pointing out that there is greater potential for being things in Trump's tax returns which would be a political vulnerability isn't exactly proving your case.

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    I should specify, it was announced on June 21st that he would give another interview on Fox
     
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