Is America Really Coming Apart?

He might be thinking of this:

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/why-articles-of-confederation-failed-104674

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-reasons-why-americas-first-constitution-failed

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/kansass-failed-experiment/389874/

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/04/the_question_libertarians_just_cant_answer/

 

See links inpost #103 below.

Never ceases to amaze me how little Libertarians know about their own failed dogma in practice.

 

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Most of your stuff is fluff without no substance. I can answer your links. One of them (the last link) had this:

"If libertarianism was a good idea, wouldn’t at least one country have tried it? ...minimal government, free trade, open borders, decriminalized drugs, no welfare state and no public education system?

RESPONSE: According to the Declaration of Independence:

"...all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

America, under the Constitution as originally written and intended, became the greatest nation in the annals of recorded history. We had the highest levels of Freedom and Liberty; had the largest military and fought on behalf of weaker nations all over the globe; sent out more missionaries than the rest of the world combined!

Yet, despite that, the rest of the world did not follow in our footsteps. Instead, because like so many nations, the U.S. had a homogeneous culture, but because we welcomed the world as guests, it made us easy to demagogue. So, while China is inhabited by Chinese (98 percent Han Chinese); Japan is inhabited by 98.5 percent ethnic Japanese; the Israelis have over 75 percent Jewish people, the United States is condemned for having any kind of white majority. It is the only measure that is meaningful to those who really hate and despise the United States.

When the first colonists arrived here, they believed themselves to be the Israelites mentioned in the Bible. And so, from the time of the Mayflower Compact down to the more recent times of left wing Democrats selling us the nutty wall idea, America was that shining city on a hill... that new Jerusalem mentioned in the Bible. And although non-whites could not become citizens, the non-white world came here in search of Liberty and Freedom along with opportunities that their native countries could not afford them.

There was a time before the pee test, blood test, hair sample, MVR check, credit check, criminal background check, Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number," driver's license, National ID Card / E-Verify, 24 - 7 - 365 womb to the tomb monitoring and drones spying on people in America. And we prospered! If we got rid of the big government and let people run their lives, we'd prosper again.

On the drug issue, America is not going to get serious. We are not going to shoot to kill those who smuggle drugs; we're not going to execute the dealers when we find them guilty in a court of law. We don't even rehabilitate drug addicts once they're caught and sent to prison. Americans are so ignorant that they think those people will magically quit just because you put them in prison. So, how do we justify screwing society? Addicts to prison and get a record. Then they can't pass the background checks and get a job. They end up back in prison... and my efforts to institute serious prison reform don't even get considered (here or in legislatures.) So, what's your plan sport? More prisons? More government?

 

Hear Hear! I recall these times, when FREEDOM and LIBERTY was guaranteed. Nowadays: What Freedom? What Liberty? What is guaranteed?

 

I'm interested. Can you give some links to your threads on this subject? I'm new here, maybe I just haven't figured out the search function yet.

 

All this requires is to get back to the constitution. We're supposed to be united states, but united by a constitution. Unfortunately, it's really hard to keep politicians from trying to get more power by ignoring the constitution. Healthcare, minimum wage, abortion, marijuana laws blah blah blah blah... all of it can be implemented at the state level if we can get the supreme court behind the constitution.

The problem is that lefties despise the constitution. They ignore it when they're in power so they can expand the power of the federal government, then when they aren't, they want a limited form of government. So give them what they want, and figure out some way to reign the judicial branch in so they don't interpret the constitution in ways that defy logic.

For republicans, they're much the same. They're in power now, so let's work on limiting the federal government. The only problem is that politicians don't want the job if it means less power.

 

http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/open-borders-or-not.503426/page-19

See post #363 (or thereabouts bearing my name) It's a good example

 

Your failure to comprehend the content is not my problem.

That you subsequently deflected from the question that was being asked is just moving the goalposts.

'Nuff said.

 

I understood quite well. The fact that you didn't understand or like the response only goes to your ignorance. Your belief that you should have the last word all the time goes to your arrogance.

 

Ironic on all counts!

 

What's ironic is that your links were specifically answered... point by point. If that wasn't what you wanted responded to (as the links served as YOUR examples), maybe you should not have used them.

Then, making personal attacks shows you for what you are. I don't initiate personal attacks, but I don't let desperate people use me as a target for their inability to have a civil conversation. I assume that when people do that, they want a challenge.

I'm wrong most of the time. Most people use these boards to spew swill they don't have the courage to say to a person face to face. If nothing else, I expose who those people are. Next time, a little discretion on your part may go a long way. You may want to think about this. Civil discourse may get
some better results for you.

 

More irony!

Congratulations, your puerile ad homs and trolling responses have resulted in me paying for your one way ticket to Cyberia.

Feel free to have the last word with yourself since I will be enjoying the civil discourse of other members instead.

Have a nice day!

 

What can I say? You're a sick individual, a legend in your own mind, but as this thread is showing you are consistently wrong. Next time our paths cross, let's ignore each other.

 

Unfortunately, that was not what HIS links were about... especially the last one.

We don't need the income tax so, from that perspective, we should be interested at a national level.

 

The graduated income tax is part of the Communist Manifesto:

With the above presented, the question them becomes, "What are we currently being subjected to in the United States of [North] America?"

 

The Founding Fathers INCLUDED various forms of TAXATION as a means to fund the government of We the People. This nation was founded long before communism.

It is a complete and utter fallacy to equate one form of taxation with communism and not others.

Taxes have been around for as long as we have recorded history.

http://www.taxworld.org/History/TaxHistory.htm

 

Where I live we were so effective at fighting the income tax that my Congressman introduced legislation to repeal the 16th Amendment and get rid of the income tax in favor of the Fair Tax. I don't know that would endorse it, but it was better than what we have now.

And you're right. The 16th Amendment is a plank from the Communist Manifesto. EVERYBODY needs to see this:

 

EXCISE TAXATION, which is sales taxes. Income taxation w is for business owners who make a profit from what they produce and sell. A wage earner by definition is not gaining a profit from selling something that he or she produces. This is the reasoning behind me mentioning graduated income tax. Graduated income tax is the second plank of the Communist Manifesto.

Under the original tax codes those pre-FRB, personal income did not include wages. There are crooks in the nation and most are within government. This is why I mentioned what Cicero stated about laws of nations. These modified definitions are to shield the cooks within government from criticism. Knowing that most people will not protest, the criminals continue with their plots and schemes to defraud the public.

 

HEAR HEAR!

 

Nothing you posted refutes the FACT that when taxes first originated there was no "communist manifesto" so it is just a red herring for Libertarians to whine about but has zero credence or value under the Law of the Land.

 

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