Is America Really Coming Apart?

Isn't California the one wanting to secede now?

 

It's only the nuts on the extremes talking secession and/or revolution. There are plenty of moderates in every state.

 

Still wondering how southern California survives without water from the Colorado.

Oh I know. Marvelous wind and solar powered desalination plants...........

 

Before I wade through the responses, I am the original Resister and Hitlery can kiss my ...

The left is not resisting anything. Both the Ds and the Rs are ending up at the same place, simply taking different routes to get there.

In response to your query:

If California opts to become a sanctuary state, they have my personal blessings FWIW. The only stipulation I require of them is that they forego any federal funding to the extent it is used for the benefit of people that are not citizens of this country.

If California can afford its guests, I'm a couple of thousand miles away and don't want to influence them the way they tried to influence our choice of candidates for Congress here in Georgia.

Additionally, I would support the government incentivizing employers creating serious tax breaks for business to hire Americans only, take people off welfare, unemployment, etc.

 

Which government?

But yes, I was thinking just today that we should perhaps give tax breaks to the rich not by merely lowering rates, but offering incentives in the form of deductions tied to investment in public works projects as opposed to stocks and bonds.

Am laughing at the notion on the talk shows today, in defense of Pelosi, that she's "a great fundraiser," when it is her very fundraising for elections in faraway state like Georgia that is turning people off!

 

I'm not interested in public works projects. I'd like to see employers have to choose between hiring anyone they want versus a major tax incentive to get them to hire Americans.

 

They aren't supposed to be hiring illegals under current law, if that's what you're referring to.

 

Under statutory law, you have a point, but employers are like anyone else. They ignore unconstitutional laws when the financial health of the company requires it.

Of course, the right has this knee jerk reaction to punish the employer, but when the government leans too hard on them, they simply leave the U.S. and open shop in another country - just like Ford did by moving to China.

 

We're keeping the army though.

 

We don't have to break up any institutions, or even separate to different areas of the country. You wanna be a nut job commie, then you're a "blue citizen", if you're conservative, you're a "red citizen". They can pay their own taxes, make their own laws that will only apply to them, and elect their own leaders. I think it could work.

 

It's almost like the founding fathers already thought of this, by attempting to limit the power of federal government over state governments.

 

What I am posting has to do with political pandering and political undertakings: In New York State, there is a planned Constitutional Convention, in reading the proposals on the website (http://nypeoplesconvention.org), there is a move to constitutionally ratify a system of bigger government using Leftist/Progressive/Liberal political platform, which equates to further loss of FREEDOM and LIBERTY. If what is proposed is ratified, New York will be more unpleasant than it already has been. See, I dislike both political parties/sections, but I dis like the Left more because it is through their agendas where the loss of freedom and liberty are lost because they come with carrots and goodies which ALWAYS equates to DESPOTISM and TYRANNY, be it through the social diaspora and governmental machinations. Those on the so-called "right", which is mostly Calvinism, do their dirty through the appealing of greed and gain. Both are bad, as I have stated, but the Left/Liberal/Progressive is more invasive.

As an aside: I am listening to an interview of two me who are familiar with the USS Liberty. There was a mention of President Donald J. Trump honoring veterans and how he should honor the surviving sailors from the USS Liberty. I think that it would have been a plus if Mr. Trump did honor these men. Never forget / ALWAYS Remember!

 

You're kidding, right? You see the act of acquiring property and becoming self sufficient as evil? Really? The antithesis of that is dependency on the government for your lifestyle.

 

I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO THAT. WHAT I STATED IS THE FACT OF AMERICANS BEING CALVINISTIC IN THEIR BEHAVIOR AND IN THINKING THAT THE ATTAINMENT OF PROPERTY AND WEALTH IS THE BE ALL OF EXISTENCE. This pretense of Americans caring about morality, peace, freedom, justice, and equality if purely a joke. This is why all levels of government have grotesque ad perverted power and "authority". It is not because of the politicians, it is because the overwhelming majority of people want ti this way. This is why there are so many cops in this society; it is all about maintaining the status quotient.

 

I can't say you're completely right or wrong. The reality is the left wants the Nanny State and right wants the complete POLICE STATE. It does appear that both sides are headed to the same destination, but just at slightly different paths.

I did find this relative to John Calvin:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1780404/posts

I don't have the answer because the right, people that supported my work a couple of decades ago, are all gone and what is left is NOT Christian, conservative, or constitutionalist by any stretch of the imagination. None of them believe in, much less understand, unalienable Rights, and if the excrement ever interacted with the electric oscillating device, none of those proclaiming a belief in the Constitution on these discussion boards will be in a foxhole with you.

 

Thank you for making your sense of direction, open and apparent to me, I too say that what is called The Right or Conservative, in the aspect of respecting and supporting "the spirit" of Freedom, Liberty, Justice and Constitutionalism, is no more Right, as in CORRECT than any despotic authoritarian autocrat. Those people have substituted actual morality with Calvinism, Leo Strauss, Imperialism and the DEATH of all things righteous. These are just as vial and repugnant to me as any Leftist/ Liberal/ Progressive, and that is saying plenty.

 

Back in the 1990s I used to frequent freerepublic.com as well as constitution.org, both are excellent websites!

 

This country has been the DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA since the Civil War. The black haters are still black haters, they just switched to the GOP after LBJ gave the blacks civil rights. Just like there were 35% of Germans that supported Hitler after WWII, there is still 35% of this country that supports the confederacy. They claim that the south never surrendered to the north. It was Nixon's plan to own the south, and that's his GOP legacy.

 

And 38% of voters still support Trump!

Is the crackpot 35% unavoidable? Hmmmm....

 

I probably agree with them on 90 percent of their stances. Unfortunately the right and I parted company over one issue:

The government is only good at three things:

1) Raising and collecting taxes

2) Maintaining a military

3) Keeping more people incarcerated than any nation in the world.

I will not ever agree to support anything that increases the size, power and / or scope of government.

 

I think we should split the nation down the middle. Left Coast / Right Coast. The left can make everything mandatory or banned and enjoy their anti-American thing and eat each other alive, tax the hell out of themselves. We can have our Constitution back and be free to enjoy our rights as our forefathers intended and live without the fear of being attacked by the unhinged. I really like the sounds of that.

 

Libertarianism failed the first time it was tried and it just failed again in Kansas.

What makes you believe that repeating the same mistake over and over again is going to result in a different outcome?

 

What? Never heard this before. Care to elaborate?

 

Liberalism has ALWAYS failed but doesn't seem to stop you lmao. When was it tried? The nation was divded in half before? Liberal news lol.

 

No. Eventually, Democrats will stop burning, looting and shooting people at baseball practice.