Right Wing Economics

Discussion in 'Economics & Trade' started by Old Trapper, Aug 5, 2017.

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    Good for you. So, you are not 100% blinded by the libcommie magical govt ideology. Why not tell is what your essential objection to Republican capitalism is.
     
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    one is a libcommie because one is stupid and thus believes in magical central govt rather than freedom from central govt which has been the primary source of evil in human history according to our Founders and their Constitution
     
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    1) my Iphone seems very high quality and is recognized by most people as high quality?
    2) corporations making millions?? thats what they are supposed to do when they offer better jobs and products than anyone else. The instant they cant do that they go into bankruptcy. Thats how Republican capitalism works. Does the liberal understand?
     
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    According to our genius Founders, the most accomplished men in human history by far, whether the central govt is libcommie or libcommie dictatorship makes no difference. If power is concentrated in central govt it is evil. Now you know why our Founders made all forms of powerful central govt illegal regardless of rationale or type. A libcommie dictator like Maduro is a commie or dictator or both, but certainly illegal in America.
     
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    nobody cares mush how they lose their money to libcommie govt. If libcommie govt takes $10,000 from your bank account as personal tax or by taxing stuff you buy $10,000 the affect is identical. Now do you understand?
     
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    right wing is Republican capitalism; left wing is libcommie Sanders. 1+1=2
     
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    that is exactly the federal system our Founders put in place. Central govt had a few carefully enumerated powers and states could do almost anything. Libcommies hate to see free states doing what they want, they treasonously insist on dictating everything from a libcommieSanders central govt.
     
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    There is always a choice. Now, you can blame NAFTA on Clinton all you want, however, it was still a Republican controlled House, and Senate.

    Trade with China did not drive the cost down, technology did. As an example, do you have a clue as to what the trade deficit is now between the US, and Mexico, and what it was in 1993?

    http://www.epi.org/publication/briefingpapers_bp147/

    Let us see if you have the ability to learn:

    http://www.ibtimes.com/america-work...their-wages-are-flat-some-cases-lower-1393941

    I am not going to tell you anything you lack the ability to understand.

    Right. That greedy American worker who only wanted to earn enough to provide for his family, buy a home, and just improve his life. Nothing like that 1 percenter who has seen his wealth increase.

    WW2, not WW3, created the cheap labor class based on women entering the work force/

    And you are working for lower wages, and fewer benefits, while more enter the poverty class:

    https://talkpoverty.org/state-year-report/south-carolina-2015-report/

    Who said they did?
     
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    Once again denying any wrong doing, news flash the president can VETO


    Wait a second I bring up technology when we were talking American worker productivity, now you want to talk technology bringing the cost down?

    Again you ever hear of cheaper labor?


    Uhm ace I brought up imports/exports when talking about how the world caught up to us the mid 1980s..you have a reading comprehension proplem?





    Once again what came first the big box stores or Joe's barber shop, mom and pops hardware store that paid good wages?

    I remember driving by the Chrysler plant when I lived in Chicago what did I see in the employees parking lot a bunch of Mopars?


    Nope

    I see. Ford's, Japanese , Chevy cars, why would the public want to buy Chrysler when there own employees don't?





    Once Again what do you want jobs or no jobs and that link is BS since it doesn't take in the cost of living, btw you do know South Carolina is over 30% black right?




    Study: SC best place for manufacturing
    BY BOB MONTGOMERY


    JULY 24, 2017 10:00 PM

    South Carolina is well-positioned to win the battle for jobs as the United States works to lure manufacturing companies from overseas, a new report says.

    The Palmetto State ranks the lowest in the nation in annual operating costs for advanced manufacturing companies, while New Jersey is the most expensive, according to the report released Monday by The Boyd Company, a site selection firm.

    The study compares the costs of labor, electricity and taxes of the 48 contiguous states to determine the annual cost for a company to operate. It is based on a hypothetical 225,000-square-foot advanced manufacturing plant with 500 workers.
     
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    So now South Carolina has BMW, Volvo, Mercedes Benz vans and now is gunning for:



    Report: South Carolina among states chasing 4,000-job auto plant

    South Carolina is reportedly among 11 states in the running for the $1.6 billion manufacturing campus that automakers Toyota and Mazda plan to jointly build by 2021.

    A spokeswoman for the state Commerce Department declined earlier this week to say whether South Carolina is pursuing the economic development deal. But The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday said the Palmetto States is among those in the running for the plant that would employ up to 4,000 workers and build about 300,000 cars per year.


    The Toyota-Mazda partnership likely will make its decision based on labor force and government incentives, the newspaper reported. Those were key factors in recent decisions by Mercedes-Benz Vans and Volvo Cars to build manufacturing plants in the Charleston region. South Carolina's right-to-work laws also will play a role, experts said.



     
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    actually wages and other costs are far lower in China so production costs would be far lower too. Technology was greater in USA so no need to move for that. Now do you understand?
     
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    Wages have not been flat in China where they have just moved 700 million into the middle class.They have been flat here because idiotic liberal policies shipped our jobs to China. To add insult to injury idiot liberals then invited in 30 million illegals in to take the remaining jobs and bid down wages still further.
     
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    And Congress can override.

    Sure, but why would you support slave wages save for the fact that you are a Republican? Then too, back to technology, as technology improves it becomes cheaper to produce the goods. As an example, why can a farmer produce more of a crop on his land, and thus have more to sell? Hybrid seeds have been the major factor in the cost of production, and then improvments in machinery. The farmer is working less, yet producing more. Same with the increase in other fields.

    Once again what came first the big box stores or Joe's barber shop, mom and pops hardware store that paid good wages?

    Don't know. I have a Dodge Ram, and a Toyota. I buy for reliability.

    What has ones skin color to do with it?

    And again, I want jobs here in the US, not in China, etc. How many jobs were created under the Republican plan when 60,000 manufacturing plants shut down? How much of the middle classes wealth was transferred to the 1-10% from the Republican recession? Then too, you probably give credit to Trump for the jobs created this year even though he has not done a damn thing to create a job.

    Not what the article says:


     
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    Republicans support free market wages not slave wages. If govt made them pay $100/hour prices would go up and no net benefit would be possible. There is no free lunch! Econ 101.

    who told you to parrot slave wages rather than slave prices. Why not pass a law that all prices must be cut in half that way all Americans are twice as rich?? Simple right?
     
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    then you want to end the liberal unions, taxes, and regulations that drove 30 million jobs to china, you want to ship 30 million illegals home, and you want end the liberal war on our families, schools, and religions that renders many Americans unfit for work.
     
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    when a big box store comes to town 1000's line up for jobs because the wages and benefits far exceed those of tiny box stores!!
     
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    labor is increasingly an insignificant input compared to other costs.
     
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    Why? How does that happen? Cheaper and cheaper labor does it?
     
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    That's your retort? Why are you playing dumb to the point I was making?


    Your the one who says at first worker productivity is up , yet now just remember company's invest in the technology to make workers more productive?


    So why should workers get a raise if they work less harder then 100 years ago?






    This post is all over the place, it was BOTH parties responsible for the recession to say otherwise is just playing partisan politics.

    Once again to say it was big business causing jobs to leave and the consumer, Democrats and Union's we're not the real cause is playing the victim and pure ignorance [/QUOTE]
     
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    if it was insignificant 60 million jobs from USA and Europe would not have moved to China 1+1=2
     
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    costs come down because of cheap labor and improving manufacturing technology. Do you understand?
     
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    not really, Republicans are for capitalism which is self-correcting so no serious recessions are possible.
     
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    very true big business has to go where costs are lowest or be driven out of business by consumers who wont buy unless at the lowest possible price.
     
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    They get paid far more today, don't work nearly as hard, and they have far better working conditions too.
    Why? Because new inventions have made their work far more productive thus owners earn far more money which, thanks to the wonders of Republican capitalism, must be shared with workers.
     

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