Jesus was the first Republican:

big liberal Roman govt like Hitler Stalin Mao Castro Pol Pot Caesar, Attila the Hun, Franco etc etc. Are you catching on?? Did you know our Constitution made big govt illegal?

 

Jesus created the individual when he told each individual that he was loved by God and not a mere slave to Rome. This is where the idea of liberty was born and thus where the idea of America was born. Do you understand?

 

if that was true you'd be very happy to present an obvious example for the whole world to see. Do you understand?

 

if you have evidence that I have a hard time I will pay you $10,000. Bet or admit you cant begin to defend what you say.

 

Er, buddy, your posts clearly demonstrate you don't have a clue. But maybe if you aren't what I think you are you'll actually take this opportunity to learn why those bumperstickers are totally wrong.

I'll pm you my coordinates so you can transfer the 10Gs to my account. thanks.

 

real conservatives are for freedom, capitalism, family values, history, religion, and a strong military. 1+1=2

 

if you have evidence I will pay you $10,000. Bet?

 

obviously if they were wrong you would be able to say why they are wrong. Sadly your precious feelings are not enough. See why we say liberalism in based in pure ignorance?

 

Except when they aren't, that is.

Never met a liberal who wasn't for freedom.
Never met a liberal who wasn't for some form of capitalism. (but was against laisssez faire)
Never met a liberal who was against family values (but was against others dictating what those values should be).
Never met a liberal who denied history.
Never met a liberal who was ideologically against religion (although plenty of agnostic/atheist liberals)
Never met a liberal who was against a strong military defense.

does that mean a liberal is the same thing as a conservative? Or perhaps you can try again with a definition that isn't a generic superficial feel good list that could be applied to any number of political ideologies.

Surprise!!!! We are in violent agreement - 1+1=2.

 

I understand perfectly. the issue is YOUR understanding or lack thereof.

 

obviously if there was a lack of understanding you would not be so afraid to provide your best example.

 

Ah yes. the ol', "if you don't submit a paper describing in detail why each bumpersticker I use is wrong, then you are wrong and stupid and don't know what you are talking about and are ignorant and dumb and not nice even" argument.

The consistent demonstration of your command of pure ignorance is impressive, sad, but impressive since it must take a considerable amount of energy to maintain.

 

when we say freedom we mean freedom from big liberal govt. That is why we fought the American Revolution and why the Constitution is 100% about keeping govt tiny and Republican. Now at long last do you understand?

 

If I asked for a paper I'll pay you $10,000. Bet?? I merely asked for a reason and you had none despite being asked 8 times. What does that teach you?

 

if so you would not be so afraid to present a good example. What do we learn from your fear????

 

That is just some much nonsense. The individual was around long long long before Jesus appeared on the scene. the notion of individual and tribal/national freedom was around long before Jesus.


there were literally millions of people who understood they were not mere slaves to Rome. There was all kinds of humans that thought their god loved them (or at least tolerated them if they were regular in their offerings).

I understand that you have no clue where the idea of liberty came from or how the "idea of America" was arrived at (hint" it had nothing to do with god).

 

so are you saying that Rome celebrated the individual too??

 

obviously the notion was around, like in Old Testament, but it was not taught to billions until Jesus and Luther did it. This is why we count time from Christ's birth. That is where our history began. Got it now?

 

Not one of them was liberal, and other than cesar not one of them was roman.

I caught on a long time ago that you have NO CLUE was a liberal is.

As for the constitution making big government illegal, what nation's constitution does that?

 

Yes it did. Usually that individual was part of the aristocracy, a soldier, a poet, a scholar or a gladiator.

Seen any ancient roman statuary lately? visted any roman monuments? Read any history books on the roman empire? Aware of what LEGAL rights accrued to a roman citizen?

this kind of stuff is generally taught in jr high., at least it was back in my day (admittedly it was 50 some years ago)

 

all ran big govt's and all would be illegal here where our Constitution provides for tiny tiny govt. You see, our founders did not care about the rationale a liberal used to concentrate power in central govt. All such power concentrations were evil and thus all illegal. Now do you get it??

 

Okay I present you and your posts as the best example.

 

actually Jesus celebrated the individuality of everyone!!!! OMG!!!! !

 

1000's of posts why so afraid to pick out a very very obvious example for the whole world to see. What are you learning from your liberal fear?

 

do you have trouble following a train of thought?

You asked if Romans celebrated the individual. I respond that they most definitely did, so you ignore your own ignorance and insist you are correct.

Sad.