Correct. Additionally, the US taxpayer shouldn't be funding anyone and everyone who wants to go to those schools as if it was a right. OTOH, I do see it in the best interests of the nation that exceptionally qualified people be assisted in attending the best schools. Not as a right, but as a national interest. Most people can benefit from higher education, but that includes VoTech or a simple apprenticeship. College isn't a right, shouldn't be "free" (meaning taxpayer funded) and not everyone is qualified to go.
That's apartheid to say that poor black people should get 2nd class education, because the best should go to white people who got the money. While you know they got that money because they previously oppressed the entire black community.
Straw man argument. My post wasn't about race, it's about doing best for the nation. You are free to play the race card all you like, but I, for one, am not a racist like you.
It's racist to institutionalize racism which is exactly what AA does. You are free to play the race card as much as you like, but your racism is clear for all to see.
First, no mention of race was made pertaining to the selection of colleges. Second, pray tell what is wrong with a supposedly second class education? The very fact that such laws no longer exist is all the paying back that is necessary.
It's just utterly insane to call helping out impoverished children to get a good education, just like rich children.... as a wrong. That is even besides the point that those predominantly rich population is white and the poor are predominantly black, due apartheid law. And all you demand, is that this social economic thing the Jim Crow caused, to remain.
Already called it apartheid The very fact that it pushed the black community to the bottom of the social economic ladder, where they still are at,.. means it is necessary.
And yet not every white individual manages to procure a full college education at what is regarded the top colleges in the united states. Pray tell why is that? Are such laws still in place in the united states to this very day? It is a simple yes or no question. Do not go on about how those who benefited from such laws are still alive, simply answer yes or no to the question. Are these laws still in place to this very day?
I already explained this to you in post 606 because you do not want to hear this? Too bad. And even when the last generation who benefited from this personally... still means there is a debt to be paid to the black community who the US government by apartheid law pushed into poverty. They pushed them in,.. their responsabiliteit to drag them out.
Except for the fact that you presented no explanation for why countless millions of white individuals cannot afford to attend the top colleges in the united states. Nor has it been explained what precisely is wrong with having to attend a lower level college when it comes to the matter of employment. Is one only able to gain employment if the college they attended was along the lines of Yale or Harvard? Are all other colleges worthless? Because it means absolutely nothing whatsoever. Would such not mean that Barack Obama became president of the united states, not because he was best qualified, but because of affirmative action?
Your incessant straw man arguments are both childish and sad. When you mature, you'll discover that truth and facts will help you accomplish your goals more than lies and emotional rhetoric. Add to this the fact you fail to recognize that racism is wrong even if it's payback racism. Anyone who equates the United States to the decades of South African Apartheid is not only lying, but doing a disservice to all those who suffered and died under that system.
That's a correlation-causation fallacy. In light of that blacks not only have markedly higher college dropout rates than whites and well as markedly lower average IQs than whites, it seems quite obvious that people need to be mature and emotionally stable enough to be able to handle a discussion that includes factors other than white oppression to explain black socioeconomics.
Attacking, smearing, and shaking down the living for the deeds of the dead due to common skin color is nothing short of racism.
You are one to talk about "proof" with your racist claims (false) and your hatred of any who post proof of the falseness of your claims.
I have never said any such thing. That would be you who wants this "better education" to be free to any black who you have declared as more worthy than anyone else. It is you who are angry because you are called on your BS.
Yes, and all the entitlement and welfare payments are no form of repayment. According to you, they are deserved just for the accident of birth that made one black. That is a pathetic excuse which you try to use at all times.
How about we get on topic, Should Affirmative Action be Continued or Ended? From all the above discussion is it reasonable to expect the same percentage of regular white guys, women, Black people, Latinos, Asians, etc. etc. would choose or be as good at being, a Medical Doctor as da Jews? Please chime in. Moi believes different genomes do create aptitudes for this or that. And gov't imposed expectations of equal representation across the Board is absurd in its' expectation and racism at its' finest. Because it's "okay" racism - y'see. Forbid gov't from counting people by color, gender, sexual preference, etc. Such gov't counts ingrain, not diffuse racism. And if some group don't believe they get theirs. They can hire a private polling firm. Moi r > g Make Pay Its' Fair Share!
I think we all know that the black community is at the bottom of the social economic ladder. You're complaint that is also has white people does not change a thing what I wrote in post 606. Because this is not about that one individual, but about the bulk. Also, Barak's background is not from the getto. He grew up with his white mother in one of the most richest zipcodes in the US. And when he moved to Indonesia, he had a personal chauffeur to drive him to an elite highschool by limo, among staff. And so with wealth and a good education,... he got himself into Harvard like that.
How about all the professional black athletes and how ploor and oppressed these millionaires are and they all came from the best of neighborhoods? Time for more whiny denial from our resident excuse maker.
Dude,... there is simply no difference between the US Jim Crow laws and the Apartheidstate era of South Africa. The essence is exactly the same to treat people as 1st class or 2nd class based on race. There is nothing wrong about undoing the wrongs from the passed.
Ohio State University, and 51 other universities made a program for low income black people, as in an early arrival program to acculturate to college life. That kind of affirmative action caused the graduation rate to increase by +30%, closing that dropout rate real fast. It is the idea putting a rich white kid in a black getto needs a help to make something out of it, but than the other way around.
