NFL Kneeling

Meh....sounds just like those with TDS. You can look thru the other threads we have up on the issue. Check out all the links from both sides of the Aisle. From the Left and Right. Oh and of course Trump supporters.

Even Justice Ginsburg said it was dumb and disrespectful. But like she said.....you can't arrest people for just being stupid.

 

And that should terrify everyone. How are so many Americans so against America?

 

After the primaries were over the choice came down to trump or hillary

If you didn't like trump you should have voted for hillary

But she is so terrible I can't see how anyone could vote for her

 

Again, that is your opinion.

As to "respecting the flag" I trust the military first and they overwhelmingly disagree with you.

Why do their and other Americans opinions not matter to you?

 

There's nothing in my op that was wrong unless you desperately grab at super thin straws. And what are people trying to say? Other than that they hate this country.

 

I'm just ecstatic that Obama is finally gone. I think that President Trump is doing a great job, especially considering that the liberal main stream media and the Obama inspired Antifa, BLM, and anti American left wingers are railing against him day and night. The real America is breathing a sigh of relief. And I look forward to the next seven+ Trump years in spite of his human imperfections.

 

Imo, hyper partisans is what the political machine wants. A divided people is easy to control.

 

If you want to have a debate with me please use the actual words that I use, when you invent your own statements that come out of my mouth the conversation can go nowhere.

I never said there is anything WRONG in your OP

I state that your OP is all OPINION

Why does the opinion of a large portion of America not matter to you?

 

tds is just.... nevermind, I don't care. The point is still that trump is far more unpatriotic than any football player. That can all be backed up by trump.

 

I agree and this is what I constantly am trying to argue that other people need to see

The two parties aren't THAT far away from each other, if you cannot see that you need to travel the world more.....

The hatred and other things that come out of people's mouths like the OP are so reminiscent of Sulla vs Marius days in Rome.

You can literally see our history being written followed by, "Yet again, humans did not learn from the mistake of their past", written by some new nation in the future.

 

Because it is not "The Military's" opinion. Trump has disrespected the military and the country way more than anyone in the NFL. You just can't argue that.

 

It seems the average football fan disagrees with you

 

Well.....you can blame the blue dog democrats for giving Trump the win. He couldn't have won without their support. Repubs, and independents didn't have enough to get him over the hump. Of course more blacks voted for Trump then Romney and Latinos too.

 

Again, why should I trust you saying that when the military themselves say otherwise?

 

That is a very broad statement you make, and I think it is inaccurate.

You also need to define some terms.

 

Ok, let's put it this way, everything in my op was objectively true. That opinion doesn't matter because it's wrong. I don't respect the opinion of anti-vaxxers or flat-earthers either. That's just how it is.

 

If nothing else I am hoping we get to see a positive shake up from both parties because of what happened this election.

Both parties are old and stale and have silly messages only followed by a small portion of the country

 

60 some mil disagree with you on the issue. But we do have a Never Trumper around here and she will agree with you.

 

Because the military itself doesn't have an opinion. You can say the majority of us, but as a whole we don't have an opinion. Now, the majority of the military is probably religious too. That's wrong too.

 

/ sigh

if you are going to keep going round and round at least TRY to look honest.

You cannot talk about things being "objectively true" (lol objectively) and then following that by comparing your feelings about Trump to 2 scientifically proven topics. It just makes you seem like you are whining IMO.

The bottom line is you do not respect anyone who does not hold your opinion and THAT IS THE SINGLE biggest problem in America today. We all are trying to make it look like the hyper emotional hyper partisans like yourself are the majority.

Thankfully they/you are not.

 

lol, got it.

My above statement is correct.

You truly do not have any respect for anyone who doesn't share your opinions.

Welcome to the forum, hope you learn something about the country during your stay.

 

You are tempting me to remind you of all the things about Hillary, but I'm going to pass on that. Been there, done that, election's over.

Look, I'm not defending Trump or any of the things he's said or done in the past.

What I am saying is that I am never taking a knee during the anthem. And I am never going to respect those who do. Never.

I am going to keep on doing what I've always done. I'm going to stand up and take off my cap and hold my hand over my heart, or, since I'm a vet, I'll render a salute, proudly.

You have no idea how much I detested Hillary Clinton. But I believed she was going to be elected up until election night. But as much as I detested everything about her, I would never disrespect my country, my flag, my anthem, and all the Americans past and present who have defended her, even if she had been elected. Never.

Presidents come and go.

We are all Americans. We are all in this together. Together, we sink or swim. Remember that.

Seth

 

This is more the problem. It seems that what's more likely is that everyone will jump for the most polarizing candidate that can be the lowest and most insulting.

 

Yep with both parties. Some establishment types just wont be returning.

 

The good thing is more and more people are tuning out the hyper partisans like the OP

I think more people are turning off NFL not because they agree with Trump at all, simply because they do not want to hear it on their day/night off