Trump Declines Certification That Iran is in Compliance; Brands Iranian Republican Guards Terrorists

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong again. Israel's support of ISIS is the leading cause of terror.
    Your Hasbara chant that "Iran is the world's leading sponsor of terror" is as old as it is fraudulent.

    Meanwhile, Iran wants to normalize relations with the US(1) & Israel's repeated invasions have caused more death & destruction in Lebanon than Hezbollah which rebuilds(2) Israel's murderous forays(3) for the the Litani River, the northern border of "Greater Israel"


    (1)"Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/



    (2)"Hezbollah"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

    EXCERPT
    "Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development program. Hezbollah currently operates at least four hospitals, twelve clinics, twelve schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance program. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country's private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members."[126]

    According to CNN, "Hezbollah did everything that a government should do, from collecting the garbage to running hospitals and repairing schools."[143] In July 2006, during the war with Israel, when there was no running water in Beirut, Hezbollah was arranging supplies around the city. Lebanese Shiites "see Hezbollah as a political movement and a social service provider as much as it is a militia."[143] Hezbollah also rewards its guerilla members who have been wounded in battle by taking them to Hezbollah-run amusement parks.[144]

    Hezbollah is, therefore, deeply embedded in the Lebanese society."CONTINUED


    (3) "An Israeli minister has threatened genocide in Lebanon, but where ..."
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170414-227118/

    EXCERPT "Apr 14, 2017 ... During the 2006 war, Israel killed 1,200 Lebanese citizens."CONTINUED
     
  2. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Next time you "visit", try staying with a Christian family. Get a little perspective - and truth.
     
  3. Silver Surfer

    Silver Surfer Banned

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    This is not Trump's doing. It's the neocons who actually run the U.S foreign policies. Neoconservatives are in charge. Not Trump.
     
  4. tecoyah

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    ....I see....so when Trump signs an EO (which seems to be all he can do) or comments and tweets something bad it is the NeoCons fault. When he fails to enact his promises it is Libs or RINOs. When he talks about unwanted genital manipulation it is "Locker Room Talk". When he is under investigation for unlawful activities it's a witch hunt. When he attacks American who have been destroyed by natural disaster it is Okay. Is there ANYTHING that he does that actually matters?
     
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    Silver Surfer Banned

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    I don't think he has any say when it comes to foreign policies. They let him talk. And that's all. The decisions are made by the neocons. I'm afraid they will set the Middle East alight without thinking it through. Trump is a fallen guy anyway. Whatever goes wrong is blamed on him anyway. Incidentally, post those liberal talking points somewhere else. A liberal circlejerk for example. I'm sure you will get a lot of pats on the back there. He won the election fair and square. Get over it.
     
  6. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You drink way too much Kool Aid.
    Firstly I am NOT Liberal.
    Secondly you just did EXACTLY what my commentary indicated,
    Finally....If Trump is so much of a lame duck, why do you continue to defend him and do you simply believe the words of our President are impotent ramblings that have no impact on world affairs?
     
  7. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And by the way.....of course he gets blamed....HE WON, REMEMBER.
     
  8. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Morons who listen to guys like Sean Hannity do not understand the fact that the money was given BACK to Iran after over 20 years.
     
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    The money belonged to Iran champ. It was not ours to keep forever.
     
  10. Wild Horses

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    Oh they understand. It just looks better to their handlers if they continue to push their lies on people they think are too dumb to see through their BS.
     
  11. Silver Surfer

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    No one thinks you're a liberal. You're a convenient ally to them. Everyone knows that you're a necon and Rushophobe. What makes matter worse is that after years of abysmal failures and geostrategic disasters you still support failed policies. Look up Albert Einstein quotes.
     
  12. tecoyah

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    Neat...so now rather than address the issues your man crush has and discuss them you use the individual who brings them up as your distraction. It is actually embarassing to watch you folks bend over in Trumps defense and play Twister so badly.
     
  13. MVictorP

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    There's nothing but correlation. It's exactly the same scenario - it's quite obvious.

    And I ain't buying it. "Fool me once..."
     
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    Yeah I did, hence my conclusion that it was a vicious, un-warranted, cheap, irrelevant and yes, unnecessary attack.

    That or you have no idea what a Nazi is.
     
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    Typical zionist hysteria. Iran's real crime was to fund Hizbollah, itself a response to Israeli aggression. They also support the rebels in the Arabic Peninsula against the autocratic regime there, just like France did with you during your independance. Iran, Hizbollah and Assad's regime fought ISIL, while Israel, the Sauds and you all but offered ISIL in Syria aid and comfort.

    Like I've wrote this is exactly the same scenario we had with Iraq a few years ago, and it's also in line with your coalition's aim to bring down any secular regime in the ME and put chaos in its place to make easier for Israel, the Sauds and a couple of fat cats of yours. All you guys ever did in the ME invariably turned to sht.

    As long as you coalition pulls the strings in the ME, the region will never know peace. You are the grafted finger that rejects the whole host. You are the black hats here, not Iran. Do yourself and the universe a favour and pull out.
     
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    So your basically saying a bad deal is better than no deal. There is a third option,a good deal that actually does stop Iran from getting nukes and the get a good deal you first have to **** can the bad deal.
     
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    It's is directly responsible for the killing and maiming of countless us troops in Afghanistan by supplying IED components to the Taliban. They are not our friends and not to be trusted.
     
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    Letting Iran decide which facilities can be inspected and which can't is not a treaty at all it's a joke and obama-kerry are the punchline.
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    Yes. You are exactly right. His post was a vicious, Un-warranted, cheap, irrelevant and yes, unnecessary attack on Jewish people.
     
  20. MVictorP

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    Being Jewish doesn't give anyone a free get-out-of-jail card. I reserve myself the right to judge people according to my knowledge and values, even when the subject is Jewish.
     
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    Criticism is not the same as bigotry. I’m glad I could help you learn something today.
     
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    Good for them. Your troops in Afghanistan are invaders taht kills and opress the locals. You are the ones not belonging there, the foreign element, the grafted finger that rejects the whole body.

    And by the way, you guys also supplied the Taliban at the time of Rambo III and the Soviets, remember? That was after you created a crisis in Iran, ousting democratically-elected Mossadegh and putting an autocratic puppet in his place. 1953 I think. Of course you do remember that, do you?

    Your values are all over the place, not once touching any ground. As a result, nobody buys your crap anymore. "Fool me once..."
     
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    Letting Iran decide which facilities can be inspected and which can't is not a treaty at all it's a joke and obama-kerry are the punchline.
    Conversation over.
     
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    Yes, that you are being the bigot here. You sure you don't hate Grau because he has a German name (making him a Nazi, of course)?

    Because that's what I think. Your insult was that of a schoolyard level, using words one doesn't understand just for cheap aggression's sake.

    You don't know sht about about Nazis.
     
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    My pleasure. That conversation was over way before you even realised it, anyway.
     
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