ISIS Driven out of Raqqua

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  1. catalinacat

    catalinacat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is great news for the Syrian people! Thank you Mr. President, I know the losers will say this is because of Obama, but laughingly, they are so wrong. As soon as Trump is president , the Iraqi army retakes Mosul in Iraq! ISIS was driven out of Aleppo by Syrian army and Russian army. Now ISIS has lost Raqqua. They held this town since 2014. All of this occupation by ISIS happened under Obama. All the towns driving out the ISIS occupation, are under Trump.

    "They did doughnuts in a tank as they celebrated in a public square formerly used for beheadings." data-reactid="7">But the last ISIS fighters in Raqqa have now either surrendered, died or fled, leaving behind bombed out buildings and rubble-covered streets. In ISIS’ place, Kurdish-led forces that retook the city did doughnuts in a tank as they celebrated in a public square formerly used for beheadings.

    Raqqa’s recapture marks a major blow for ISIS, culminating a steady depletion of its coveted territory that included losing the Iraqi city of Mosul earlier this year. The extremist group has lost thousands of fighters during the ongoing international anti-ISIS offensive and has seen its influence in Iraq and Syria dwindle.

    ISIS has long anticipated the fall of urban centers like Raqqa, however, and for months has moved key forces out of the city as it prepares to focus more on insurgent attacks and its online presence. But, although ISIS will adapt and persist, losing the city that was once the organization’s central hub will likely see a fundamental shift in how the group operates."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-losing-apos-capital-apos-214123767.html
     
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    This has been underway for quite a while and it is cause to brag, however in losing territory they will just disperse and return to guerrilla tactics.

    Iran has been busy resettling Shia from Iran, Iraq and Lebanon in Syria to shift the demographic..

    I don't think the refugees will be able to return any time soon.
     
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    I have news for you, the Syrian people are furious. The American coalition not only killed hundreds, including children with indiscriminate bombings of civilian areas in Raqqa, but has destroyed the cities infrastructure as well. Assad has been complaining continuously to the UN to stop them, and to tell the American coalition to get the hell out of his country.
     
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    So why hasn't Assad come out publicly telling the US to get out, again? He even has been on BBC and CBS. Just why did he never mention anything like that.
     
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    Middle Easterners hate losers. It will be increasingly difficult for ISIS to recruit.
     
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    Assad told the US to get out many times, because they're not fighting the terrorists, it's all a charade. What they want is a regime change and also the break up of the country. Do you really think the MSM will report it? As for the interviews of Assad, they are always edited by the network. They will never let the Americans hear or see anything other than what they want them to.

    When Russia was bombing the tankers carrying the stolen oil from Raqqa so as to cut off their funding, they couldn't understand why the Americans were bombing the infrastructure and adding to the suffering of the people. They did the same in Aleppo and bombed the water purifying facilities... probably so the people will leave. But why would they want the people to leave Syria unless they had their own plans for Syria's future which didn't include the Syrian people.

    Did they destroy oil rich Raqqa to get the inhabitants to leave for some underhanded reason? I think so.

    This is from Moon of Alabama:


    Over the last months U.S. supported Kurdish proxy fighters besieged the city of Raqqa and fought to take it from ISIS. An immense amount of U.S. bombs was released to lower the casualty numbers of the U.S.proxy forces. The city was literally "destroyed to save it". Many of its civilian inhabitants were killed. During the last days rumors abounded that a deal was made between the U.S. and ISIS. It would give ISIS fighters free passage when leaving the city. Today these rumors were confirmed.

    This is from RT:

    Once inhabited by 300,000 people, less than 1 percent of the population remain in the city, which has no working electricity or running water.

    Raqqa is still laced with booby traps and explosives laid down by retreating IS terrorists. In addition to that, some 3,000 bombs have been reportedly dropped on the former IS stronghold by the US-led coalition since January.

    Here is Raqqa. It's amazing how the US can spend millions to buy bombs to support the military industrial complex, and yet never spends a penny for humanitarian concerns.

     
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    Your claim is that the US never spends a penny for humanitarian concerns. Are you sure that statement is correct?
     
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    Agreed it's been underway for awhile, but guerrillas need public support to survive. I doubt many will willingly support ISIS.

    Most refugees don't return once they've settled into a new life. When the Obama administration (and Hillary) proposed bringing 65,000 Syrian refugees to the US, the correct term should have been "immigrants" not "refugees".

    Still, putting ISIS on the ropes and taking out their "capital" in Raqqa is an important victory.
     
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    No no no.....see you said, Assad is out saying that the US should get out of Syria. Yet Assad hasn't. Not on Television or radio broadcast. Nowhere with the rest of the world, and he isn't running around and saying the US needs to get out of Syria.

    Yes Reuters, the AP, other foreign News Sources, Military Sites, Intel Sites, all would have Assads words telling the US to get out, printed for all to see. For sure Israel's news sources would.

    Trump, Mattis, and McMasters changed the ROE. US Special Forces changed up the strategy and the end result is Daesh got its ass kicked, stomped, crushed, lost their almighty capitol, most of their fighting army and just don't have a Caliphate anymore.

    This should have took place before. Problem was.....BO the peep and Demos was running things.

    Oh and you forgot when Assad and the Russians attacked Raqqa......was that on purpose? Did you want to say they didn't kill civilians? Didn't destroy whole neighborhoods? Did you want to say Iran and Hezbollah weren't involved?

    Then there is Daesh using civilians to hide behind.
     
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    Settled into a new life, you mean getting welfare payments and a free house?
    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/09/louisiana_lawmaker_saints_shou.html
    As Trump once said "You're going back"
    But to be fair we really need to train them in construction trades so that they can start rebuilding as soon as they get home.
     
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    The SDF did this, not Trump
     
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    That's an incorrect statement if not deliberately deceitful.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-in-humanitarian-aid-to-syria-idUSKCN1BW33Q
    The U.S. State Department on Thursday announced more than $697 million in additional humanitarian assistance for the people of Syria, bringing total U.S. assistance since 2012 to more than $7 billion.

    “The new funding also helps mitigate the impact of the crisis on governments and communities throughout the region,” the State Department said in a statement.

    Nearly $516 million will be destined to assistance inside Syria, according to the statement. Around the region, Jordan will receive about $88 million, Turkey $35 million, Lebanon $29 million, Iraq $15 million, Egypt $13 million and regional organizations $2 million
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    https://www.state.gov/s/d/rm/rls/dosstrat/2007/html/82955.htm
    ...On behalf of the American people, the U.S. Government leads the international community in responding to the needs of refugees, internally displaced persons, victims of conflict and disasters, and vulnerable migrants. For many Americans, humanitarian assistance is the hallmark of U.S. foreign policy engagement and a demonstration of American compassion. The U.S. Government directly supports more than one-quarter of the cost of humanitarian activities undertaken by the UN and Red Cross organizations, and provides strong support to other NGOs. The United States is also a leader in the promotion of legal, orderly, and humane migration, building on our history and values as a country of immigration....
     
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    LMAO.....not alone they didn't. Oh and those were US Bombs dropping in Raqqa. So its time to give Trump and Team their props for getting the job done. This time there were people that knew what to do. BO the peep wishes he could say that.

    Oh well......Trump cleans up another Obama mess.
     
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    The same amount of bombing happened that there was under Obama. Then kurdish communists were the infantry that actually took control of territory.

    It doesn't matter how much you blow a place up if your infantry isn't there and the enemy's is.

    Trump is a moron who had basically nothing to do with this and doesn't deserve the credit
     
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    Exactly. The best way to defeat ISIS in the long term is to defeat them in the short term. Young and impressionable Islamic men won't flock to a cause that's getting it's ass kicked and ISIS will dry up and blow away.
     
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    Trump used the MOAB in Afghanistan, something Obama never did.
     
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    because it was ****ing stupid. he blew the hell out of a mountain for no reason. just a mountain.
     
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    Kabul (CNN)At least 94 Islamic State fighters were killed when the US military dropped America's most powerful non-nuclear bomb on ISIS targets in Afghanistan, an Afghan official said Saturday.

    "The number of Daesh fighters killed in the US bomb in Achin district jumped to 94, including four commanders," Nangarhar provincial spokesman Attaullah Khogiani told CNN, using an alternative name for ISIS.
     
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    No the same bombing didn't take place under BO peep. Mattis and McMasters up the bombing on Raqqa since BO peep wasn't so keen with handling the JV Team. Also after they knew Assad and the Russians had hit Raqqa.

    Yes Mattis, McMasters, oh and Mike Pompeo of the CIA got Trump to change the ROE in Syria. So yes Trump gets the credit. Its on his watch. Yeah TEAM TRUMP ya got it Right! [​IMG]

    The leftness can live in an alternate reality. But their lies just aren't going be accepted anymore.
     
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    If you want to live in an alternate reality where bombing campaigns are effective against insurgencies, go ahead
     
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    94 entire people with such a huge weapon isn't impressive
     
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    You said all that was blown up was a mountain and now you see how you were wrong.
     
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    Now how did you come to that conclusion? What I bet you actually think it was just some bombing that took place. Or that now you don't think bombing took place all due Trump being the president.

    Have you been able to filter thru about the US SF on the ground in Syria.....yet? Tell us how you know that they aren't assisting the Kurds.

    Now do you think you can put 2 and 2 together? Who were we working with and training again?

    Daesh has lost their capitol. Tells us again how you thought just bombing them as an excuse would work out for you.
     
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    Yeah......just like he is wrong that Trump and his Team don't get the credit. Plus now he tried to say, I was only talking about bombing insurgents. :roflol:
     

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