ISIS Driven out of Raqqua

Our commanders and our troops weren’t leading the fight in Mosul. Iraqi troops don’t follow our ROE.

So changes to our ROE had **** all to do with the fight in mosul.

 

90% of Mosul had already been taken by the time Trump was elected. The only fight that was left was the fight for the Old City.

 

U.S. to Send 600 More Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/world/middleeast/obama-troops...
Sep 29, 2016 ·

Task force commander recalls assisting Iraqi troops in ...
https://www.army.mil/article/187097/task_force_commander_recalls...
... enabling the Iraqis to push into eastern Mosul. ... Task force commander recalls assisting Iraqi troops in drive on Mosul. ... 2017 US, partner forces ...

US troops wounded on the front lines in Mosul - …
www.cnn.com/2017/02/22/politics/us-troops-wounded-mosul-iraq-isis/...
Feb 23, 2017 · Video embedded · US troops wounded on the front lines in Mosul. ... specifically mention assisting the Iraqis trying to

“Assisting” Iraqi Troops in Drive on Mosul – Soldier of ...
https://www.sofmag.com/assisting-iraqi-troops-in-drive-on-mosul
“Assisting” Iraqi Troops in Drive on Mosul. ... Although the U.S. mission in Iraq is often referred to as one of advising and assisting, ... Although the Iraqis ...


Actually.....they did. You just didn't know what you were talking about. Next time study a bit would ya.

 

They didn't free **** on the Border of Iraq and Syria. Did you forget even Jordan helped with that one. Or did you forget when Assad was pushed back and bogged down.

 

How about a bit of reality?

Airwars researchers estimate that at least 2,300 civilians likely died from Coalition strikes overseen by the Obama White House—roughly 80 each month in Iraq and Syria. As of July 13, more than 2,200 additional civilians appear to have been killed by Coalition raids since Trump was inaugurated—upwards of 360 per month, or 12 or more civilians killed for every single day of his administration.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/president-trumps-air-war-kills-12-civilians-per-day​

The American coalition has killed more civilians in Syria than Assad ever did... but then again they never did care about people in the Middle East or N. Africa..

And yet when the Russians and Syrians were taking forever to free East Aleppo, so as not to kill civilians, the MSM kept harping on how they didn't care how many civilians were being killed. I have a long memory.

 

Less than 1% of the troops fighting for Mosul were US troops. Our ROE meant **** all for that fight.

 

Yes, it would have been much better to just let Assad and ISIS murder those people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/...ad-atrocities-civilian-deaths-gas-attack.html
In six years of war, President Bashar al-Assad of Syria has overseen a campaign of carnage, turning an enormous cache of deadly weapons against the very people they were presumably stockpiled to protect.

In a campaign to crush rebels and jihadists, Mr. Assad and his allies have relied on tactics that go far beyond the norms of modern warfare to kill many thousands of Syrians. Here are the ways they have done it.....

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-obeidallah/isis-defeat-muslims_b_10825028.html
...And the United Nations, after an extensive study of the civilian deaths in Iraq from January 2014 to October 2015, released a report in January 2016 that was simply jaw dropping. Almost 19,000 civilians were killed in that period, with much of that reportedly due to ISIS. Keep in mind Iraq is 99 percent Muslim. ....

 

They were advising and assisting. They were what helped the Iraqis to make that final push.

Our people calling in Air support, directing and assisting the Iraqis.

The Peep sent in 5k before the additional 600 for the front line push. 10% of 5k is what again?

So basically.....you don't know what you are talking about with that defense of BO peep.

 

It wasn’t our troops clearing houses in Mosul. It was the Iraqis. Our ROE meant **** all.

More to the point 90% of Mosul, as well as Tikrit, Ramadi, Fallujah, Kirkuk, and all the other battles of 2014/15/16 that gutted ISIS occurred under that ROE.

 

Oh your sour grapes are really starting to smell. If Obama was still in, you would give him credit. Thousands in ISIS have surrendered since Trump won the election. None of that happened when Obama was president. ISIS increased in numbers and spread under his 8 years. His legacy is mud, he failed in the middle east. Go ahead and watch CNN and feel comfy and revenged, while they will be talking about the latest cheap, gossipy, heresay talking points bashing the president. They will never cover that Raqqua was freed. Get over it, you LOST.

 

Uhhh, you're quoting from the MSM.



Whoever own's the corporations, own your mind.

 

i also hate obama. my central point is that america itself was only assisting the sdf in dealing with isis. asserting that trump is a failure at everything is just also a fun thing to do while i'm here.

 

Oh well, that's okay then. If it's fun for you to assert lies. We do know that under Obama, the U.S. did nothing to rid Syria of ISIS. Remember those airstrikes they did a few years back? They would strike one empty building, or one jeep going down the road, it was a huge joke and McCain loved every bit of it. I'm sure he is still drooling about taking down Assad.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/us-foreign-policy-syria-civil-war-assad-580079

Perhaps the US is working with Russia behind the scenes.

 

Well, we do know they have communications up and running with each other.

 

I think that what is happening behind the scenes is far different than what the political clown show would suggest.

We created a huge mess in Syria and this mess needs to be cleaned up. One thing I noticed throughout the conflict in Syria is that Russia has been very muted in it's criticism of the US for its role in arming and supporting the Islamist insurgents. Sure it has spoken out in general terms but, it has been very "Political" in doing so.

 

Excellent Post !

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russians-are-fighting-near-u-s-same-side-syria-s-n739356

 

That's right. The major shift occurred in December 2011.

 

Yes, Obama followed the SOFA signed by Bush and agreed to by the Iraqi government.

 

Yes, much has been made of that SOFA as an excuse to leave Iraq, though it was never mentioned during Obama's self congratulatory speeches at the time. Only after the ballsup became apparent, and hundreds of thousands died, was that excuse used. In fact you can see Romney and Obama debating the point during the election campaign.

Where is the SOFA being mentioned now. Is it really anyone's concern?

 

Are the Iraqis making the same demands regarding a SOFA now that they were pre-2011?

 

Good article .. It is about time we stopped arming and supporting ISIS and started fighting them.

The rebels fighting Assad, since 2012 have been Al Qaeda and ISIS and others of the same ilk. The rebels that the "Washington" was supporting.

 

Have no idea, which tells us that these SOFAs are not essential to the US or any other country being there. Do you really believe that a third rate politician like al-Maliki, heading up a newly formed democratic government for the first time in Iraqi history, can tell the US President and the Armed Forces to leave the country because they haven't signed a SOFA, knowing that chaos will result, and thousands of lives lost, if this takes place?

You have to be trying very hard in order to believe that.

 

They most definitely are essential if the government in question is demanding one. Are you saying the US should have violated Iraq’s sovereignty and went to war with an allied country?