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Paul Manafort, Ex-Chairman of Trump Campaign, and Associate Plead Not Guilty to Money Laundering

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deflection from the DNC being exposed over and over and over and over right now...
     
    Thirty6BelowZero, Oct 30, 2017
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well no the media is reporting the charges in the indictments. Which ones have to do with the campaign?
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 30, 2017
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    Bull crap. The premise was not Trump collusion with Russia. The premise was always related to Russia's influence on the 2016 presidential election and anyone who helped or enabled it. The fact is nearly all Trump supporters are worried it will implicate their Dear Leader because he's such a scumbag to the core. But even if it doesn't, that was never the main purpose of this investigation.
     
    AtsamattaU, Oct 30, 2017
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    Margot2 Banned

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    Re: Manafort

    The two men met nearly three decades ago when Mr. Gates was an intern at Black, Manafort, Stone, Kelly, a high-powered Washington consulting firm.

    The firm specialized in running Republican campaigns and then lobbying the politicians they had helped elect. In Washington, Mr. Manafort worked to smooth the rough edges of various dictators and strongmen, among them Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines and Mobutu Sese Seko of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

    The Trump Organization was also a client, employing the firm to lobby the Treasury Department on casino transaction rules and to guide Mr. Trump’s ill-fated New York-Washington airline venture.

    continued

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/politics/rick-gates-russia.html
     
    Margot2, Oct 30, 2017
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  5. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They know that. They just keep flinging their crap and hoping a speck of it will stick.
     
    Thirty6BelowZero, Oct 30, 2017
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  6. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    READ FULL TEXT OF ROBERT MUELLER'S INDICTMENT OF PAUL MANAFORT AND RICHARD GATES title

    Source: Newsweek

    Conspiracy to launder money. Funnelling millions to foreign bank accounts. Working as agents of Ukraine. These and other charges are in the just-released indictment of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and friend Richard Gates.

    Here is the full text of the document:
    Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/read-full-t...ctment-paul-manafort-and-richard-gates-696026


    Oops ... gonna need a different excuse now ...
     
    Cigar, Oct 30, 2017
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  7. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    The indictment has 31 counts of money laundering..

    Trump and Manafort go back 20 years.
     
    Margot2, Oct 30, 2017
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  8. AmericanNationalist

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    No, the indictment is perfectly legitimate. It's what it's NOT for, that is absolutely telling. I'd love to summon Mueller to Congress and ask the simple question: "Is something there, there? Feel free to continue investigating crimes, as a prosecutor should but you won't get US taxpayer dollars to do it."
     
    AmericanNationalist, Oct 30, 2017
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    From the indictment.

    1. Defendents Paul J. Manafort, Jr. (MANAFORT) and Richard W. Gates III (GATES) served for years as political consultants and lobbyists. Between at least 2006 and 2015, MANAFORT and GATES acted as unregistered agents of the Government of Ukraine, the Party of Regions (a Ukrainian political party whose leader Victor Yanukovych was President from 2010 to 2014), Yanukovych, and the Opposition Bloc (a successor to the Party of Regions that formed in 2014 when Yanukovich fled to Russia). MANAFORT and GATES geneated tens of millions of dollars in income as a result of their Ukraine work. In order to hide Ukraine payments from United States authorities, from approximately 2006 through at least 2016, MANAFORT and GATES laundered the money through scores of United States and foreign corporations, partnerships and bank accounts.
     
    Margot2, Oct 30, 2017
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  10. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ... and Laundered 75 Million ... ;)
     
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    We are discussing topics of investigation. I am still waiting on reporting in regards to the indictment.
     
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    And this has what to so with the campaign and Russian collusion.
    Look I'm all ears and if Manfort violated the law in his BUSINESS dealings he should face appropriate legal sanctions which would probably be a big fine and any taxes due. But this investigation is supposed to be about Russian collusion in the election and there is no tie here with that that is being reported.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 30, 2017
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    sawyer, Oct 30, 2017
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    None of that has anything to do with the election.....
     
    Sage3030, Oct 30, 2017
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    Well yes they are.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 30, 2017
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's coming, just not on your schedule ... it's not about you.
     
    Cigar, Oct 30, 2017
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    from the indictment

    1. Defendents Paul J. Manafort, Jr. (MANAFORT) and Richard W. Gates III (GATES) served for years as political consultants and lobbyists. Between at least 2006 and 2015, MANAFORT and GATES acted as unregistered agents of the Government of Ukraine, the Party of Regions (a Ukrainian political party whose leader Victor Yanukovych was President from 2010 to 2014), Yanukovych, and the Opposition Bloc (a successor to the Party of Regions that formed in 2014 when Yanukovich fled to Russia). MANAFORT and GATES geneated tens of millions of dollars in income as a result of their Ukraine work. In order to hide Ukraine payments from United States authorities, from approximately 2006 through at least 2016, MANAFORT and GATES laundered the money through scores of United States and foreign corporations, partnerships and bank accounts.

    http://www.newsweek.com/read-full-t...ctment-paul-manafort-and-richard-gates-696026
     
    Margot2, Oct 30, 2017
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    But wouldn't if they showed criminal activity such as money laundering which is why Trump campaign chairman Manafort and his associate Gates.
     
    toddwv, Oct 30, 2017
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    MrTLegal, Oct 30, 2017
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    This is just the First Indictment ... relax
     
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    Just felt that you had to whip out those prime examples of right-wing idiocy and racism, didn't you?
     
    toddwv, Oct 30, 2017
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    So, what was the main purpose? To destroy the WH? To make an absolute mockery of the Worst Congress in the history of the Republic? Make no mistake Atsa: The absurd charges were EVERYTHING to do with this mess. Additionally, we were told HOW DARE Trump fire that stooge of an FBI Director. Where has that gone? If he can't, or won't give any vital red meat for the importance of this utter farce, the US Congress should at the very least withhold funding, and save the US taxpayers some dollars.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Oct 30, 2017
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Tip of the iceberg."

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    I chose the black man because they seem to trigger Trump fans the most.
     
    toddwv, Oct 30, 2017
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Right Wing Spin Machine is in Hyper Overdrive today.

    You guys need to pace yourself, or you'll peter-out before the final act.
     
    Cigar, Oct 30, 2017
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    It has nothing to do with the election....

    So far, the election stuff is still just a nothing burger.

    I know y’all are playing it off as if this has to do with the election, but it doesn’t, just like whitewater/lewinsky.
     
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