Germany confesses ' special responsibility for Israel '

So... the majority of the world is calling out Israel because this blockades is creating a humanitarian crisis yet, ... you think no reasonable person would believe that removing the blockade would help.

This is goofy x 3

It is an occasional rocket. It is not like there is non stop shelling of Israel by Hamas. Almost always it is done in retaliation for some Israeli action.

Regardless - this is a stupid and nasty thing to do and I call the Pal's out on the nasty things they do. I call out all nasty things done in this blood feud for what they are "nasty things".
It is not my fault that a whole lot of these nasty things are done by Israel and nor does this mean I side with Palestine.

Your problem is that you only call out nasty things on one side.

I post regularly on the evils of Islam(Islamist's in particular) ... I am way harder on these good for nothing pieces of human garbage (Islamist's) than the average person. The difference is that I can justify my comments.

On the contrary ... I have way more respect for Jews than the average person ... the difference being that my respect comes from things other than "they are God's chosen people so can do no wrong" or some other State propaganda ... such as that which you have ingested.

There is a reason why a significant number of Jews disagree with their Gov'ts foreign policy. Do you know what those reasons are ? Of course not. You just follow the MSM and State false narrative like a blind sheep wandering into the slaughterhouse.

Do bells not go off in your head when you find that the only response you can muster to information that conflicts with your ingested propaganda is to demonize the messenger ?

 

I posted a link that states exactly that ! That the Arab rejected parts of the resolution has no bearing on the point that was being made. What has been omitted from your post is a response to this point.

 

So NO answer to my post.
Just the usual FILTH, anti-JOOO slander of "Israel-Firsters".
You're Also a Holocuast/"Holohoax" denier.
Of course you're against 'Israel.'

I'm so relieved you went to Omar Barghouti in this LINK DUMP.
Though of course, and AGAIN/as usual, his name is not part of your excerpt.
You don't care. You just scrape up a link.

https://www.salon.com/writer/omar_barghouti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Barghouti

IAC, and Again, I agreed Israelis are not big on peace right now and elected Netanyahu, whose policies I don't agree with.

and No reply to my pointing out 'ethnic cleansing' is not really as meaningful when those considered to be it's target Art Subverisive/Traitorous to the state.

And Finally,
EVERY post of yours is just a segue to the Next Thinly disguised anti-Joo/Zio/Israel Defamatory Link Dump.

You are NOT capable of discussing any topic.
Just Link Dump something anti-Israel/anti-Joo like... "Holocaust®", "Holocaust Industry", "Holohoax."
"Genotoxic", "Genocide," "Ethnic Cleansing", "Israel Firster", "Hasbara."
or other bigoted Incitement to Hatred.

You Gratuitlously DUMPED/OBSESSED links on 'Netanyahu' and the "USS Liberty"! into... "Germany Military Leader of Europe!"
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ader-in-europe.514624/page-23#post-1068102422
in 'response' to a post about the Balkans!
WTF was that!
Outa Control!
GONE!

That IS all you do here and in Any and Every topic.
It's ALL Nasty links about Joooos. Oft from Hideous conspiracy/hate sites.
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EDIT;
Grau below always has to Omit most/all of my posts from his "quote."
He gets Refuted and embarrassed in each one.
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Because it is the truth ... The Palestinians are not powerful and they are not trying to destroy Israel. Quit making stuff up and pretending it is true.

Regardless ... you are basically talking over the points being made rather than responding to them.

 

I wish I had time to study this issue in more detail

What Indo know is that Israilis are tough customers fighting a powerful worldwide force

And they are not engaged in a sport where everyone gets to play onother day win or lose

They are fighting for survival

 

You're incapable of any civil exchange without resorting to lies & insulting slander especially when you're proven wrong.
That's why I rarely answer your puerile tantrums.

I'm repeatedly on record of supporting Israel's existence, just not its criminality, war mongering at America's expense & America's infection of Zionist lobbies who work against America's best interests

 

Interesting. I posted my view and because you don't agree, you are calling me a blind sheep. You ass-ume that any opinion that does not match your own is the result of ingesting propaganda from the MSM. Funny, I don't recall you asking about my source.

 

Israel is not fighting a powerful worldwide force. Israel is the "powerful force" and the Palestinians are an apartheid state. Sure there is some aid going to Hamas/Hezbollah but this is pretty sparse.

Nothing like the arms and supplies provided Islamist extremist rebels (Al Qaeda/ ISIS) in Syria by various nation states. It is not like there was 100,000 Israelis killed over the last 5 years never mind 500,000. Try 150... and these are mostly soldiers committing aggressive actions inside hostile territory.

Civilians ? Very few and these have been from a few crazed suicide attacks by individuals rather than some "Powerful Force"

The same thing happened here yesterday in NY. 8 people were killed by some Islamist nut. This is hardly a powerful worldwide force.

You are repeating the false narrative nonsense that rains down on us on a regular basis by our politicians and MSM .... as if it was not propaganda

 

I too support Israels continued existence, I too do not condone Israeli criminality. BUT when you start getting into this idiotic notion that america fights Israel's wars and then add the ol' zionist lobby working against america, you wade right into that cesspool of jew hatred - the protocols of zion - the global jewish conspiracy.

So many will respond to you without any civility because they obviously mistake you for a holocaust denying jew hater. I'm sure you will agree that such scumsucking jew hating nazi apologists do not deserve any civility or tolerance. Us intellectual bigots resent such lowlifes.

 

I'm in a bit of a rush at the moment & don't want to burn my precious store-bought pizza.

But

For future reference, I believe that the proper grammar would be "We intellectual bigots resent such lowlifes." not "Us intellectual bigots..."

More later & good night

 

Germany should have been forced to give up territory to create a Jewish state.

 

poe.

 

If you do not want to be accused of being a blind sheep .. then quit quoting the spoon fed MSM nonsense and ignoring anything to the contrary.

Little if any of what I presented was "Opinion" ... what I presented was facts.

So Spanky ... answer the question . What are the reasons why a significant number of Jews disagree with their Gov'ts oppression of the Palestinians ?

 

You are making MY point.

"a plan to partition Palestine into Independent Arab and Jewish States"

A plan to create a state in the future, does not create a state in the present. ESPECIALLY when the plan was vehemently rejected by the Palesinians and all arab nations, and never implemented.

 

The plan ... the plan that Israel agreed to, was for the creation of 2 states.

As I stated previously ... the "agreement" Resolution (what ever it was) has been violated by Israel over 100 times.

 

100 years on today from the Balfour Declaration and the State of Israel as it stands bears no relation to that conceived as a homeland for the Jews that the Christian Zionists who wrote it envisaged. Without doubt the rights of the indigenous population, the 700,000 Palestinians who lived there have been crushed, I doubt Balfour cared much about that, in fact subsequent writings of his prove that.

Just as it is easy to wade into the cess pool of jew hatred so it is equally easy to wade into the cess pool of ethnic/religious superiority.

The fact is that Israel is a European colony within the middle east, it was formed through war, terror and ethnic cleansing and it now persecutes in a similar way Jews were once persecuted.

 

As they had every right to do, according to the UN charter. The Zionists had no right to declare a state independently, that it was recognised was a travesty. Of course it helped that Zionists terrorist scum had murdered the UN mediator. Scum that later became president of Israel.

 

That was the plan. A plan never implemented. Again, PLANS to create a state in the future do not create a state in the present

Israel wasn't a signatory of the UN resolution.

 

Most every state in the world was declared independently. You just have a problem when Jews are the ones who do it.

 

The majority of Israeli Jews are descended from Jews from Arab nations.

 

Do you have a source for that contention as my understanding is different.

Irgun, the Stern Gang, Haganah were all comprised of European Zionist terrorists

 

Please let me know what "poe" means

 

The fact that America's Israeli lobbies wield so much power in American politics is hardly debatable.
Acknowledging that fact has nothing to do with:

as more & more American Jews strongly oppose AIPAC etc & its destructive influence on both Israel & the US(1)

Additionally, one can question the legitimacy of the standard Holocaust narrative from a historic standpoint as literally billions do(2) without being with a "jew hater" or a "nazi apologist".
According to the study I cited below, Hindus are most likely to reject the standard Holocaust narrative & they are hardly known for their anti Semitism.
So far, there is only one dishonest & hate filled Poster on this forum who is incapability of civility toward me so "many" do not respond to me with incivility or distort my views.

The rules of this forum, basic human decency & the possibility of persuasion call for civility toward all individuals regardless of their viewpoint. I would rather persuade & possibly convert a true Jew hater than harden him in his views through insults.

(1) "Jews Protest AIPAC Conference, Slam Support for Israel"
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/n...ce-Slam-Support-for-Israel-20170326-0028.html

EXCERPT "Jewish protesters marched Sunday outside the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, APICAC, conference in Washington as they slammed the lobbying firm for supporting policies of the right-wing Israeli government."CONTINUED


(2) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” (I encourage all readers to read the entire article)

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT “This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

 

Words like this usually draw long discussions, but there is really nothing to discuss. It's all a lie. Arabs are not discriminated in Israel. They are in all kind of jobs from factory workers and drivers to members of Knesset. Yes, there is some level of anymosity among many Jews towards Arabs (and vice versa) but what else can you expect after so many years of wars and terrorist acts?

 

Interesting. If I sit back and let you blather, you end up doing the work for me. Your name calling and accusations say much more about you than me. You should start a thread about the pilots from 2003. That seems to be your "gotcha" issue. it only shows that there are people of conscience on that side. Where are the Palestinians standing up and speaking out against sending small children to throw rocks at armed soldiers in hopes of a bloody image they can use to create people like you?

There are Arabs that like things the way they are. They are Israeli citizens.