Banning Muslim entry to the US will not stop terror

There have always been wars throughout human history

 

A "mobile totalitarian political force and organization" IS a religion. It's ANY relgion. Christianity (especially) Buddhism (if you squint) Judasim (no comment) Hindi (Kr-shna isn't at all nice when riled) Confucianism( hey, grandma was a BITCH, now we worship her?) Shinto (especially, just like Christianity except the Saints are in the rocks and water, not heaven and Jesus is the Emperor)

And ,okay, just what IS a "religion under US Law"?

 

What I meant was native born Americans have become radicalized and while foriegn terrorists are at least on law enforcement's radar young Americans are not. I find this disconcerting as who better to overtly enter any setting without sending up red flags than someone who looks like us. As long as there are muslims in the US a state of terrorism will exist, this is something the left has tried to discredit but is an absolute certainty unless something changes. They cite American values as being opposed to banning certain groups who may be our enemies. I say may be our enemies because one cannot distinguish between friend and foe. They cite American values while diminishing the value of American lives for the sake of non Americans and even beligerents. We did not ask to be maimed and murdered and our benificence still extends to all who come here legitimately and peacefully.

 

Unfortunately, Christianity seems just as incompatible with true secular democracy. I don't understand why Muslims are "singled out". Physical violence, I suppose, is the only difference. And even that has been occasionally caused by Christians from time to time.

 

I suppose because the issue is White Americans are simply an ethnic group. Forcing all Whites out of the country would be racist. What I find more surprising is that no one called for something religiously based when Christian terrorists murdered civilians at abortion clinics. However to be clear, I am not entirely against the idea of deporting Muslims. If, for now, we can only stop one theistic, homophobic, sexist, pleasure-repressive, emotionally distressing ideology from entering the borders of a fairly secular country, then so be it. It might be, if nothing else, a step in a new direction.

 

You're going to love this. The Boston Marathon murderers the Tsarnaev brothers and their entire clan were on welfare and got the full boat from soup to nuts. Young Dhzokhar had a scholarship to Umass Dartmouth courtesy of the taxpayer. Both Tsarnaev brothers were found to be in possession of multiple EBT cards which are used to access spending money accounts for welfare recipients. These accounts are reloaded monthly and with little oversight there's a thriving EBT blackmarket. There are fortysix thousand EBT cards unnaccounted for in Massachusetts that are still reloaded every month. Conversely, if Joe Blow American white guy gets laid off guess what services he's eligible for? Once his unemployment benefits are exhausted it's food stamps maybe and eventual homelessness.

 

uh, do you live in a sanctuary city? You cannot throw a stick in Boston and not hit one. They are the most rude, lewd, impolite and offensive lot you're likely to ever meet. They are hostile toward everyone who is not one of them. I've personally known many in business dealings and in the workplace, I do not like to pidgeon hole anyone but they make it easy, I put them all in the one labeled *******s.

 

What point is that? This is a pretty dumb comment. You have made a fool of yourself because you didn't read what I was responding to.

 

Oh... how naive...

Now that, on the other hand, might work. It's one more thing in which time has proven that the left right! It might be too late now, though.

 

What you see is somebody throwing a rock, wingnut media telling you that it's a left-winger, and you believing everything they tell you because you're naive.

 

Good points. Putting murders in prison or executing them will not stop other people from murdering and so we should just relax about murder and not do anything to stop murderers or capture or punish them after they murder. That there is leftist style reasoning. No wonder it's gave the entire nation a headache during the 2016 presidential election and thus we have plain speaking . . . Trump.

 

Translation: You don't actually know a single one personally. Thought so.

 

What do you do when those practicing a religion are actually homegrown U.S. citizens? The ban didn't stop this last attack or any previous ones that took place, nor does it prevent other homegrown terrorism or shootings.

 

There are many people who support that view; that when you run into someone rude, arrogant and abusive, you need to invite them over for dinner and spend time getting to know them better. Those would be people lacking in judgment, values and common sense.

However most people recognize a fresh road apple when they see it, and leave it lie.

 

Possibly ban the religion and work to annihilate it's uncooperative practitioners within the country. At least, those are my thoughts on the issue.

 

And how do you plan to ban a religion while the 1st Amendment is still in play?

 

It's not a religion.

 

Perhaps the OP should tell us to what benefit it is to bring muslims to this country. They are totally incompatable with nearly everything this country stands for.

 

Oh, is that the game you're going to play?

Hey, let's ban all pistols and rifles! The right to bear arms doesn't apply, because I just decided that pistols and rifles aren't arms!

Fact of the matter is, I can just kill whoever I want, because I just decided that intentionally ending the life of another human being isn't murder.

 

Everything I've read says otherwise.

 

May as well kick out all the Irish in the US since they could be members of the IRA sleepers unit. While we're at it, lets kick out all the Germans since they could be nazi's in disguise until they are ready to take over the country and the Japanese as well since we nuked them during WW2 and inside they haven't forgiven us for that and might want to extract revenge.

 

It's long overdue- we need to review just what the term "religion" includes. Apparently, the Spaghetti Monster group (Pastafarians) are also a legitimate religion. They were created to show how ludicrous the label of religion is, how meaningless it can be.

The identity of "religion" carries numerous protections- and obviously under the cloak of that protection, a great many evils have been perpetrated and allowed to persist and thrive over history. It is not what you call yourself that makes you what you are- It is what you do.

Most people find the teaching and preaching of violence and murder of those different than yourself does not qualify as something entitled to religious freedom.
I find that not only failing to support the identity of such practice as religion; I find it criminality of the highest sort- and it deserves no protection, regardless of what it calls itself.
That is a personal opinion, not a legal one.

 

Are there even IRA members anymore and are they told to kill all non-IRA members or convert them to the IRA movement ?

The Japanese are our allies.

NAZIS don't exist anymore LARPERS don't count.

Amazing how you were able to condense so much stupidity in one small post.

 

First off nobody has ever suggested banning Muslims. But proper strong vetting (something much more than random entry) is a start.

 

You must be so embarrassed because you know that I'm right so you refuse acknowledge the obvious. Your post is nothing more then a lame attempt to justify your ridiculous response. Please don't continue to publicly embarrass yourself by responding.