Iran parliament increases missile funds to confront US

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  1. jimmy rivers

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    Note how the russian army was in TWENTY-ONE other countries, occupying and controlling those nations from top to bottom, but none of the anti-american trash ever complains about them. Wonder why that is...Funny how we don't see Eastern Europe and so many other places that was under the russian jackboots for decades ever use that as an excuse to start attacking other countries, but these liars and frauds will enable iran to do just that, indefinitely. I wonder how much mileage they think they can get out of milking the 1953 action, another 500 years of terrorism for iran, perhaps?

    The US helped 3 dictatorships become 3 amazing, successful, free countries - germany, japan and south korea, yet is relentlessly attacked by the failures of society who are bitter about the failings of their own lives and will do and say anything to undermine and attack the US. They are pathetic.
     
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    Unfortunetely, the idiotic policy of the United States in respect of Iran is a basic reason why today Iran is ruled by religious regime.

    The meddling of CIA is a reason of all following events including the seizure of the US embassy in Tehran. Keep it in mind before making next stupidness in the Middle East.
     
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    Not to PM he wasn't; he was elected to PARLIAMENT, not to PM. The shah appointed him to that role.
     
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    And now we're doing what we said Russia should not do, but alas, we are exceptional, so, yeah.
     
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    Another clueless enabler; it must be the Kevin Spacey Enabler/Excuse week - I get to be an aszhole my whole life because my kindergarten teacher was so, so mean to me!

    So iran gets to export terrorism, war and endless slaughter/violence because the US helped remove a person in a coup conducted by IRANIANS, no less - 75 years ago? Wow, that's amazing logic there, bet you were voted smartest in your class.

    So can the world nuke russia for all its FAR worse crimes? How about the syrian people slaughtering all of iran for its atrocities and mass murders there? How about Poland nuking germany and russia for what they did in WW2? Or can Israel nuke spain for expelling the jews in 1492?

    The level of debate in this forum really can't fall much lower.
     
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    I guess that maybe because, for example, China doesn't attack any country? Unlike the United States?
     
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    Israel doesn't have to go back in time at all, they could deal with right now. So could we.

    • Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
    • Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
    • Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan
    Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

    The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

    Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

    The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.
     
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    First of all, who told you that Iran exports "terrorism, war and endless slaughter/violence"? I would say the USA exports much more wars, slaughter and violence and terrorism than any country in this world.
    Second, the coup was architected and inspired by CIA, and that's why the history of Iran turned this way. This is just a simple fact. Did I say this is an excuse of something or of somebody?
    Poland doesn't have nukes.
    As far as I understand, participation here is a free will of anyone.
     
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    I would say the USA exports much more wars, slaughter and violence and terrorism than any country in this world.

    For profit.
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    A typical post, where name calling is the card played, because I stated hard facts, and you have not paid enough attention to realize those facts come from public record.

    The Shah was a western puppet. Fact. Iran is on the PNAC list, another fact. Iran has never attacked America, a fact. Iran does not like Israel, a fact. Iran is not working on nukes, a fact, and in fact the last intel accessment done under Bush Jr. evidenced this fact.

    And as we speak, it appears that the neocon driven trump admin is looking for reasons to go after Iran. I would like to know of what propaganda outlet has conditioned you and formed your view of reality. So I avoid it like the plague.
     
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    We have colonies? Really? In Africa? South America? We have Puerto Rico, but there's never been a clamor for statehood there.
     
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    Oh well, if they like being citizens without a vote, nevermind. Do you not know how to look into this stuff on your own? Guam is another, althought they aren't even citizens. Both however are over represented in the military for all you "patriots" out there.
     
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    Your criticism is foolish. It's like approaching Tom Brady (the greatest NFL quarterback of all time) and pointing out, "Hey Tom. You remember that interception you threw in Buffalo in 2005? That was really bad. Why did you throw it? I wouldn't have thrown that interception. It was a bad play, Tom."
     
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    Sure, it's just like Tom Brady.:alcoholic:
     
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    I was in Iran in 1953 and again in 54.. and I remember how all the adults were really disappointed over what the US and the Brits had done. IMO it was a real blunder.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
     
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    I don't suppose you've ever spent time in the Islamic world or else you would know that Muslims don't hate America & Israel for who we ARE but what they hate what we DO.
    Even still, Iran has repeatedly reached out to the US(1).

    I also doubt that you listened to Rouhani's U.N. speech which was refreshingly sane & moderate in comparison to Netanyahu's & Trump's embarrassingly bellicose tantrums


    "In Iran, ‘death to America’ doesn’t mean what you think"
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...eans/31910553/
    https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-08-17/iran-death-america-doesn-t-mean-what-you-think-it-means

    EXCERPT ""Death to America" expresses the anger many Iranians feel about U.S. policy toward Iran, said Foad Izadi, an assistant professor of world studies at the University of Tehran. Iranians remember that the U.S. overthrew the legitimate government of Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 and supported the dictatorial Shah who followed.

    The slogan "means death to American foreign policy," said Izadi. Iranians "have problems with the American government, not the American people." In fact, he said, Iranians are friendly to Americans. "When you walk around town, and people see you're an American, everyone wants to take care of you."

    Those two sharply different understandings of the chant parallel a wider disagreement between Iran and the U.S. over foreign policy in the Middle East. The U.S. sees Iran as an aggressive power, supporting terrorism in the region. Iran calls the U.S. a superpower that threatens military attacks on Iran and its allies."CONTINUED



    (1) "Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"

    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/
     
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    Agreed on all points.

    The two main reasons the US stayed involved after WWII, unlike returning to isolationism like after WWI, was because 1) isolationism didn't work the first time and 2) the rising Soviet threat.
     
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    Yes, but the fear of communism was real. The US did a lot of bad things during the Cold War. OTOH, the alternative was worse. We could easily have had WWIII in the 1950s.
     
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    Agreed. OTOH, I'm all in favor for cutting them loose. It's not a colony, but if they want independence, we should give it to them.
     
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    Really? Obviously you're too young to remember Korea, Vietnam, Tibet and the whole Himalayan dispute.
     
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    I don't care how they feel. As long as they're shouting "Death to America", they're on our naughty list.

    And threatening Israel with complete destruction isn't winning them any points.

    Let them overthrow their aggressive theocracy and we can talk.
     
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    The US has been hostile against Iran ever since they caused the coup against the elected president of secular Iran. I have yet to see any remorse of that terrorism the US spread there. Not to mention the US backing the regime of Saddam Hussein and aiding him raging a WMD war against Iran and the Iraqi people.

    And you find it weird they shout Death to America? lol
     
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    The best way to aid in the expulsion of their hard line mullahs would be for the US to normalize relations with their moderate President Rouhani.

    Meanwhile, there are just as many threats coming out of Israel directed at Iran as the other way around

    "Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped Off the Map’"
    https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2...r-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/?_r=0
     
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    Iran is hostile. They'll always be hostile. They love their religious extremists.
     
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    The US started the hostilities because of capitalistic greed. They installed fascist terror for the sake of cheap oil deals. The US is like that. It will always be like that. They are the extremists and Iran is just one of its victims.
     
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