Lower standards to allow white men into special forces

Conventional warfare isn't particularly common these days. Guerrila fighting is the new battlefeild, and 'hearts and minds' are paramount. You cant win hearts and minds if you cant speak the language or understand the culture.

 

What makes you think that the next war will not be a real war, high intensity against a nation that has a real army, navy and air force ?

You will never win the hearts and minds of Chi-Coms, Russians or North Koreans.

Kill or be killed.

 

So your opinion is that German and Japanese troops and commanders who murdered American prisoners were unjustly executed or imprisoned.

 

There's a reason why U.S. Marines and soldiers didn't take prisoners in combat in the Pacific during WW ll.

By August 14th 1942 it became the unofficial order, don't take prisoners even if they surrender. "Kill of be killed"

It was a result of the Goettge Patrol that took place on Gudacanal.

Re: the Germans.

More German prisoners were shot by American soldiers than Germans have shot American or British soldiers. General Eisenhower had to issue an order to young American soldiers to stop executing German POW's.

What atrocities the Germans committed on the battlefield were committed by the Waffen SS not by the Wehrmacht.

The Waffen SS was not the Wehrmacht, the SS was the militant arm of the Nationalist Socialist Party, a political army.

In America the Democrat Party use to have the KKK and the Nationalist Socialist Party in Germany had the Waffen SS.

 

For those that do not know, the Goettage Patrol is named after marine Lieutenant Colonel Frank Goettage.

He was with the landing command Intelligence section when the US landed on Guadalcanal. And a week into the battle he had gotten word that a detachment of Japanese soldiers was wounded, sick, out of food, and prepared to surrender. And there had been reports of a white flag being flown in the area. So he got together the Regimental Surgeon, a translator, 25 Marines, and headed out to get them to surrender.

However, this was not the case. He ended up running directly into an ambush by a Battalion sized unit. In a day long battle one Marine after the other was killed. 2 times members were sent to swim back to the headquarters to bring back relief forces. By dawn the next day, the survivors decided to make a break for it, and ultimately only 1 of them survived. As he was fleeing he saw Japanese soldiers shooting the wounded marines, and stabbing them repeatedly.

Ultimately, only those 3 survived. And when the Marines arrived on the scene all of the American bodies were mutilated (with some parts missing, believed to have been taken as "trophies").

Similar instances were repeated on later battles, like Tarawa, Iwo Jima, Saipan, and Okinawa. Where "surrendering" Japanese soldiers were not in fact surrendering, but hoping to get close enough to use pistols or grenades to take out as many Americans as they could before dying.

It was realized that the Japanese could not be trusted to actually surrender. Until Okinawa, most Japanese soldiers captured were unconscious, either from nearby artillery or their wounds. That is why at Tarawa, of the over 2,600 Japanese soldiers on the island, only 17 survived the battle.

 

He probably does

 

Btw does anyone have a clue what OP rant is about?

 

It certainly is possible that someone who doesn't own a computer and who only has a cheap phone, for which he can't even figure out how to check spelling on it that he needs an apology for every message he posts as his signature line, could have very limited ability to read and understand an OP message.

 

Again displaying how clueless you are.
How about you try and explain why despite the standards for all men going through the various SOF selections being the same white males make up the vast majority of the folks in all those various SOF units.

 

I guess you know more about Warfare then the entire US military. Because they still consider recon and directing fires a very relevant task. And it is becoming even more so as the military preps for a possible war with Korea.
Again you really should stop talking about things you are clueless on.

 

Noting you are new to the forum, you should read this message VERY CAREFULLY and consider it VERY SERIOUSLY. I'm TRYING to do you a favor.

1. You are new at 19 messages. Anyone can post claim about themselves or declare any personal knowledge and it isn't worth jacksh.t. Only, somewhat, after a person as been around quite a while with a high message count that gives internal clues are personal claims or knowledge anything but completely worthless.

2. At best, if that, you sit at a computer and monitor stateside in some capacity involving surveillance or logistics, for which you have very specifically limited security rating and clearances. Your assertion that you know everything the US military had done, is doing, all contingency options and all pursuits of future contingency options and plans is what everyone actually understands is absurd.

3. This is particularly true since every "story" I have told from family and close family friends of present or past service is NOT Army, and of the one with truly high clearances will answer any question with "I really can't tell you" at least 75% of the time, which leads to #4

4. IF you are an "NCO at SOCOM" with any notable security clearance or rating, what the hell are you doing posting online about the military on a forum? NO ONE in a security role with classified info - directly or indirectly - would be such an idiot to do so in general, and certainly not to trash women in the military and post - even generally - about what you do in regards to preparation for possible war with N. Korea as you did.

Just your comment on topics of intelligence and preparation for war with N. Korea you posted is basis for court martial and ranting against our women is arms is basis to boot you out with a less-than-honorable - at best - and certainly you stripped of ANY and ALL security and confidential information classification.

IF you are an NCO at SOCOM who EVER is privy to classified information or even might residually pick up on any classified info, you should IMMEDIATELY cease your online involvement on any military topic on any forum or in any fashion other than maybe ancient history. MANY a career of all kinds - political, professional and military - increasingly so - has been destroyed by their stupidly mouthing off on the Internet. IF what you posted about yourself is true, you have already done so. I'd HIGHLY urge you to stop it - rather than continue to tell us about special ops, intelligence & war with N. Korea and how it works - and continue to trash American women in arms.

It doesn't even matter what you say, just your mouthing away about anything on a public forum is not acceptable. Hope your view that you are 100% successfully hiding behind a forum ID that Army and military intelligence will never detect.

Or do you want to post still MORE online more as an NCO about SOCOM in relation to war with N. Korea? Want to more trash active American service members for their sex/gender?

Non-active military and civilians can post on these topics without risk. Active military cannot because they should not - EVER. Doubt what I say? Print off your messages and the entire thread for context - and show them to one of your COs. See the reaction.

Since you are active - or so you claim - YOU HAVE ZERO FREE SPEECH RIGHTS - NONE!

Of those I know who had or have rating for or know current classified information OF ANY KIND, they would never post what you did nor would they even be posting anything at all on military topics. Again, I can not count the number of times I have been told "I really can't go into that," even "I really can't go into that, dad."

You're no high ranker, no policy maker, no planner and have none of the "know all" of every aspect of every branch of the military you claim you have.

 

What classified information is at play on this topic?

 

What is the racial breakdown of those who apply? What is the racial breakdown of those who pass the pre-screening? What the racial breakdown of those who attend the course, and those who pass?

This is the beautiful thing about screaming racism without providing any kind of background first. You can then claim it is biased without having to provide any kind of proof.

And would it surprise many that the Navy SEALs are mostly white? Where are all the black Hockey players, is the NHL biased? The NBA is 75% Black, 1.8% Hispanic, and only .2% Asian. Are they biased?

I demand the NBA fire 1/3 of their Black athletes, and bring up the number of Hispanics and Asians.

 

That's not how it works if you are active and possession any classified information rating. However, we do know that someone claiming to actively being an NCO just told us that SOCOM has plans to use ground force recon for directed fire in war with North Korea, not just eyes in the sky. What other plans is he going to tell us as an "NCO at SOCOM" about planning for war against N. Korea?

I didn't know we have announced that we are going to war with North Korea, but there is a "NCO at SOCOM" posting publicly that we are and at least one detail of how we are going to fight it - which he claims to have knowledge of in his collection of classified information knowledge.

 

so when were you in the military? did you test for any special services?

 

Understand take nothing of my message as either accusation or threat. It just seems something needed to be stated to a new member posting that context IN MY OPINION.

All I am saying is "loose lips sink ships" and if a person actively is in the military with classified information or even rating for it, they should be exorbitantly careful what they post on military topics publicly, and highly suspect the military's answer is "nothing."

 

1. First of all I could not possibly care less what someone as obviously clueless as you thinks is worthless or not. You have destroyed any possible credibility you may have ever had by making up obviously nonsense stories and trying to pass them off as fact. Anyone with so obvious a lack of integrity as you can not be trusted on anything.

2. Second I didn’t post anything that is even remotely classified. I would be willing to no to bet I have had more training on dealing with classified information then you. So I take absolutely nothing you say seriously so you can take your help to yourself.

Again you prove that you have no idea what you are talking about. One I am not stateside. Two I don’t sit behind a computer and my job has nothing to do with logistics. Three I have a TS-SCI clearance. Your knowledge of what clearance there are is rather obviously lacking.
And finally let’s see you quote me claiming I know all of what goes on in the military. We both know you can’t and this is just you being dishonest.

3. None of your stories are even the least bit believable. But continue look like the dishonest poster you are.


4. There is nothing wrong with people with a clearance posting on the internet. There are numerous sites on the web where a large percentage of the posters are current members of SOF who all have a clearance. There classified about the fact that we would be working on our Recon and call for fire capability prior to a war. In fact it’s common sense and something understood by anyone with any military knowledge. Which is obviously not you.
You lack of knowledge about what is classified and what isn’t is rather humorous.
Seeing you try and talk tough and pretend like you know what you are talking is good for a laugh.
And again you resorting to draw man because I called you out on your BS. Quote me even once saying anything negative towards women. We both know you can’t but you just continue making crap up.

To sum it up you have no idea about anything military. You make up obvious lies to try and push your agenda and you spend most of your time making up straw men rather then actually back up your BS.

Pathetic.

 

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Considering the current state of the Veterans Administration alone, why would any rational person want to join today's military? Of course they have to lower standards to feed the political "meat grinder" operations in the middle east, air force and navy.
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You have no idea how it works. That much is blatantly obvious.

And still lying and putting words in my mouth I see.
Please quote me saying we are going to war with Korea. That or admit that you are simply lying.

 

What post did he tell us, "that SOCOM has plans to use ground force recon for directed fire in war with North Korea, not just eyes in the sky."

 

I didn’t and anyone reading this thread knows it. Jake is one of the more dishonest posters I have ever dealt with. The only thing more lacking then his knowledge of the military is his integrity.

The funniest part is his stories about the female soldier he knows are so ridiculous that they wouldn’t even make a good fiction book as they are simply to unbelievable and not grounded in reality as all good fiction should be.

 

I didn't think so, I was asking the question just to hear the stuttering non answer.

The thing about this female soldier friend of his is that this thread and his rants are actually a part two to a similar thread many months ago when he wrote at great lengths about Super Girl and how she was a better soldier than any who had ever lived, but it was clearly obvious that this was a friend zone situation. He was protecting m'ladies honor and all that. So since (for whatever reason) I remembered that insanity it was clearly obvious that was the root of posting such insanity. I hope he gets the help he needs... or just finds another girl to be obsessed with.

 

I see that you dropped your signature line after my message about it.

 

All you messages says is your level of knowledge of missions capability - FORTUNATELY - is VERY limited.

 

Then go ahead and tell us all more of what you do and what you know.

How often does the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, President, General Milley, Director of the NSA and Director of the CIA contact you prior to any missions for your approval and review, given you claim you know all?