David Cameron to Trump: Your ‘fake news’ act is ‘dangerous’

I have no idea where you get this from.

All Donald Trump does is label anything that isn't flattering to him "fake news" in an attempt to invert the term to mean the opposite of the phantom websites, often set up by Russian operatives, that spread made up and false memes through right wing media in 2016.

There is frequently no substance at all to Trump's bluster. It's just him demonstrating how small minded and thin skinned he is.

 

Epic thread win

 

You think a US president can destroy the press? Really? Not unless you throw out the constitution and Trump becomes dictator for life.

 

Your imagination knows no bounds Tommy. I’ll give you that.

 

Those things happened independent of America, and will continue to happen. America did not bend the world to its will, and its attempts to do so have not been successful(creation of Al-Qaeda, fracturing the European/Asian world rather than uniting it.) To me, Pax Americana is to fulfill the Monroe Doctrine, and protect our Western hemisphere. Whatever happens in the rest of the world, is strictly its business.

So for example while the Darfur genocide was disappointing, choosing a side would've possibly enabled more bloodshed.

I think alliances based on mutual economic understanding, while straying free from the conflicts that require a bloated military budget is the way to go. The status quo politics of proxy states and propping up other actors, while trying and failing miserably to 'uphold the global system' will eventually end up as 1914. If you remember the particulars of how WWI started.

 

Dark, ok so giving speeches for cash is Dark? Hmm

 

He made a one time attack against a Syrian military base, and destroyed almost nothing.

The Russians and Assad continued to bomb civilian populations in Syria with barrel bombs and there wasn't a peep out of Trump.

When Putin expelled hundreds of American diplomats, Trump did next to nothing and took it laying down.

Trump has refused to even acknowledge the existance of the massive Russian political influence and trolling operation that the Russians have been running against the United States since 2014, one whose existance has been recognized all over the world, and particularly in the West, where the Russians have run similar operations in France, Britain and Germany.

You know " my game"???? I make fact based arguments that reflect my personal views, and also happen to align with the views of people all around the world. I view Trumpsterism as fundamentally un American, a betrayal of what the United States stands for and a headlong retreat to backward igorant parochialism. Far from making America great, Trumpstersim has the power to reduce the United States to second class status and irrelevance. Trump himself has reduced the Presidency to irrelevance on the world stage.

 

I didn't write the President can destroy the press. You've done what the press does. Misrepresent what I wrote.

By pointing out their deceit, and manipulation, they are destroying themselves. Over the long run, why would anyone go to a news source known for deceiving the public? That's my point.

How many ground shaking headlines were proven false in the last 10 days?

 

3 mistakes means the media is not credible? Lol

 

Here you go:

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No, the President pushes back when they misrepresent or attempt to add a false context to what he says and does.

They should stop doing that if they expect to survive in the long term.

 

Trump attacks the media when it lies and Lefties complain about Trump's attacks instead of the malpractice of their fellow travelers in the MSM who have openly dispensed with all journalistic ethics and standards.

As I said before, the suicide of the Fourth Estate is what's dangerous here.

 

Those are just three examples.

"Mistakes" ?

 

Cameron's party is currently passing a new bill to limit press freedom in the UK.
Press here must give up it's sources from now on.

 

Hummmmm, that's a shame. I would suspect that all government see the unrest that is coming down the pipe and are positioning themselves to suppress it.

 

The real problem here is that Fox News has taken the conversation so far to the right, that every other news source appears to be left. Think about that for a minute. When you lump everyone ("The MSM") into one camp, and Fox news into the other, and then claim that the "MSM" is bias for Clinton....what are you really saying ? Your saying that Fox is what you believe based on confirmation bias, but everyone else is wrong.

The "Mainstream Media" is doing their jobs. They have credibility because they DO correct themselves when the facts come to light. With that said, the game the right is playing right now IS A VERY DANGEROUS game. This isn't about facts anymore, this is about choosing what you believe. The Trump Dossier is case in point. Nobody except Donald Trump knows what in that dossier is true or false. Some may be true, some may not. Fox News would have you believe that every letter in that is fake, while others believe it is all true. It is your choice to believe the Dossier fake, but Im sure that if your a Fox news watcher, you would believe that because of what, and how they report that. While Fox says its a fake, other stations say is has truth. You choose to believe what you want based on your internal ideology.

The overall problem here is that never in the history of this country have we had a "news source" like Fox News. I listen to, and watch many different sources to get my news (including Fox), and I have to be honest and say that Fox News IS the republican version of Pravda. That is what has changed the game in American journalism. When a democratic administration was in office, they claimed to be "holding them accountable", and now as a Republican administration is in charge, they ask "why is everyone else trying to bring them down".

The idea that now our intelligence communities are complicit in some conspiracy to take down the Trump administration is even more dangerous. You cant pick and choose what to believe from the intelligence communities. The intelligence is not republican or democrat, it is what it is. Choosing what is fact and what isn't based on what a talking head tells you is just ridiculous. The one true fact in the intelligence communities is that even tho their "heads" are political appointees, those who gather that data, those who compile and vet that data, are always career people who are true patriots without a "D" or and "R" after their names. The work for america, not a political party

 

Wise observation.

 

So they claim, but as we learned just a few days ago: There was perverted conflict of interests within Mueller's FBI team for example. Let's not take people at their word, especially people who lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We believe people when they produce evidence for their claims, and thus far no evidence has been even remotely produced.

So if the 'intelligence community' is upset that they are doubted by some Americans, then they should have no problem with completely unclassifying ALL information as it pertains to the Russian Collusion. All of it. I'm willing to hear it, are they willing to step up?

 

Give it a rest.

Trump is objectively wrong on this issue. The percent of incorrect stories is just too small, and the accountability (firing, retractions, corrections) too high and fast for this to be a thing.

Fake News is stuff like Infowars, Pizzagate, or Trump's tweets. Not Wapo correcting a literal handful of stories a year out of tens of thousands of highly accurate ones.

 

No, that's exactly what you did and then went Trump and denied it and said "this is what I meant". I read your post and saw the same thing Margot2 did, but to your point why would you believe the President when to the rest of the world knows he lies all the time. That fact is not debatable. There are 2 sad realities with that.....he actually believes he tells the truth even with video proof that he has said the exact opposite and the fact that so many (like yourself) believe him. He is a very dangerous man.

 

1 or 2 people with overt bias is not bias in the FBI


You guys are scared that Mueller is going to bring down Trump that you are panicking

 

Try 9. 9 people donated to Hillary's campaign lol. If Mueller did bring Trump to trial, this is the very first thing he'd have to defend. He'd have to defend the validity of his team and their work, the defense will definitely cross examine and question.

 

Consciousness of guilty leads to tyranny & corruption if allowed to subvert the rule of law.

 

This is no accident. The nation is under attack. This is a war on the Constitution.

 

And they do. You seem to forget that cheney is the one who pushed the changes for the WMD's as "fact".

Why would they do that while they are still investigating this ? Isnt their job to determine what evidence exists ? There was enough evidence to start the investigation, so if they didn't, then why not let the investigation play out ? I don't know if they colluded, there is smoke, so let it take its course.

The real problem I have ad since all of this started was the right saying that it shuld not even be investigated. If there is nothing there then you have nothing to worry about right ?

 

What does that say about the entire DNC that lies and calls him all kinds of names? You can't bash him for what he says when he's bashed constantly from the other side. You would defend yourself the same way. Any man would.