WATCH: CNN Stunned By What Democratic Ohio Voters Think About Trump

That was in one area. Dems across the midwest, those places devastated by slave labor globalism, many of them switched over. You think Youngstown was the only place, an abberration? I don't think the DP wants to know how many moved over because trump acted like he cared about working people. Your party sure as hell does not and you should know that. I doubt that you do though. I think that looks obvious.

People support trump out of damn desperation. You just do not get it. You work for a living? My money says you are not a blue collar worker. And you could not give a rat's arse about these americans who the DP used to stand up for and represent. You may be an indication of what is wrong with that party. If so, your kind will have to be kicked to the curb, and my party taken back from the likes of you.

Eventually, minorities which the DP depends on are gonna realize they are just like white working americans, and working people have to be represented and the DP no longer does that. This will perhaps either destroy the DP or force them back into what kept them in power for so long from FDR onward. The DP cannot depend upon the ignorance of some of our minorities for much longer, given the devastation created here by slave labor globalism.

 

If that's all true then you have nothing to worry about. You have a rosy future.

Just out of curiosity though, where do President Trump and the ultra elite ultra wealthy people he prioritizes over average americans fit in your concept of globalized slave labor?

 

I never said I believed trump would help out working americans, only that he promised to, as he appeared to be anti slave labor globalism to these people. I think he duped them of course, but the reason he won was because of the issues he ran on, and the promises he made to them. I think the future can be great for the DP, but only if they move back to the party of FDR. Trump is the only GOPher you will ever see that is anti slave labor globalism, or at least acted like he was. I also think the RNC will rig their primaries post trump like the DP did to theirs, to keep out grassroots, populists, who will represent the non elites. The GOP never had this populist problem in my life time, and I am old. Although some say reagan was a populist. I never thought so. He was a conservative that the elite globalists used, the neoliberals. IMO

I am well aware of what trump ran on, for I actually listened to so many of his speeches. I could see very well why some of the working people who supported sanders would take trump over clinton, a clear neoliberal and neocon to boot. I didn't for I didn't believe trump and voted for stein once sanders lost. With help from the DNC of course.

 

Nice try at putting a brave face on this bad news for liberals

Trump is solid on the issues that matter to average Americans

 

The old days of the media leading the public's thinking patterns by intentionally manipulating the news....are over.

 

Your claims are not supported by either the election statistics or by the polling.

Donald Trump lost the popular vote by a wide margin.

His victory is due entirely to a series of victories in sparsely populated areas where the vote had an outsized effect on the electoral college. The real margin for Trump was only 70,000 votes, a crowd that would leave empty seats in a football stadium.

On election day, Trump's poll numbers were a lot higher than they are now.

It's no surprise that hard core right wingers will go down with the Trump ship.

They waved their pom poms for Sarah Palin and another con man named Herman Cain.

They want simple solutions and have genuine affection for sleazy demogogues.

 

I don't even have to know what Trump is doing. He pisses off all the right people. That's enough for me.

 

We both know where he lost the popular vote, right? And unless we move to popular vote, your point is moot. 3 million votes is not a large margin. What would that percentage be, out of total votes? Hardly a wide margin. At least to a mathmatician, but to a partisan, sure. lol

Of all of the counties in the US, how many did he win? So, it really depends upon how you want to look at this. Figures do not lie, but liars can figure. But under our system, trump took the electoral college votes, and that is how we elect presidents, in order to keep a large population area in a particular part of the nation to always choose presidents. I sure would not want NY and Ca to choose presidents, given how different those cultures and people are from the rest of america.

When democratic states, in the midwest and rust belt go blue for trump perhaps you should dig just a little deeper?

Just face the fact. Hillary could not win the electoral college and that is what elects our president.

And face another fact. Your party no longer represents nor stands up for the majority of people in america who must work for a living. If every working person would have voted, trump would have won in a landslide. That is, if they believed in what trump campaigned on and promised to working americans. Your party promised nothing, jack squat. Only sanders did. The only democrat that has run for years, at least in principle.

 

3 million more votes for Hillary and all time low approval ratings. /thread.

 

I completely agree with you in that the Democratic Party could have a rosy future if it rediscovered the New Deal.

 

They picked democrats who were for Trump. His approval numbers are supposed to be in the low 30's, but that would cover his hardcore support, democrats aren't the hardcore support. Not to mention his support from blacks, which liberal rags try to dismiss, has doubled since 2016.

 

70, 000 votes spread across 3 states out of 130 million votes is an extremely small margin

 

Wrong.

 

You seem to forget that Hillary won by a far less margin across 4 states.

 

CNN picked people who were pro-Trump??/ WTH are you smoking?

 

No way he wins in 2016, even if something DRASTIC happens, said the polls. I hope the media tells people like you that Trump's approval numbers are in the single digits when 2020 rolls around. It's gonna be another epic night like 2016 and heads everywhere are gonna be exploding all over again. Pinheads were popping all across America when they called PA for Trump.

 

How many of those are the illegal aliens that obama told to vote?

 

Lolz at spin, and calling former dems idiots.

Also, lolz at the polls that just don't seem to matter to Trump.

 

Yeah, for some reason the leftness forgot those Demos in Kentucky, and Pennsylvania. Of course no one ever said the new breed of leftists have smart powers.

 

Fair enough, thats still a losing avenue for them to pursue.

Resist we much!

 

I always heard it is good for a new president to get the hard work done early in the first term, and not worry about statistics, polls, and other shitholes.

 

I think that they're right about their conclusion but wrong about their premises. Their premise is that trump supporters are poor rural white people and southerners, when statistically trump supporters tend to be at a sort of shady car dealer level of wealth, much more middle class. Think just the level where an in-ground pool is a realistic purchase. There's no point in reaching out to those people because economic class determines your politics much more than basically anything else, and most rural white people don't give a **** about politics because they think nothing is ever going to get better. The answer is to reach out to those apolitical poor people and tune in to their actual needs to create a political platform, which will inevitably be of a decentralized far-left nature

 

Believed no normal person ever.

 

it's an easy conclusion to draw from a very public set of data

 

I hope so. Take a look at "the bubble" right now with lefties-they buy into it and its been generally effective with them.

The MSM feels the need to triple down and in doing so has exposed itself to the american people.