Congress hurtles toward shutdown

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  1. rahl

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    we don't need any democrats. Republicans can pass any budget bill they want, and democrats can do nothing about it.
     
  2. Zorro

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    Well, when we have a couple handfuls of Dems ready to reopen, we'll reopen.
     
  3. Zorro

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    It'll be better to have a couple handfuls of Dems aboard. They need to help govern, they can't just scream "NO!" at everything.
     
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    we don't need any democrats. Republicans can pass any budget bill they want, and democrats can do nothing about it.
     
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    like republicans did to Obama?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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  7. Zorro

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    It's always important to be forward looking. Obama is gone, we have a Nation to Make Great Again!
     
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    Republicans are certainly off to a shitty start. Deliberately shutting down the government, like a spoiled 8 year old girl.
     
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    we have a bipartisan bill proposed, all republicans have to do is vote on it and it will pass

    #TrumpShutdown
     
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    Oh I agree the facts are clear. Debt ballooned under obama during the worst recession since the depression. Imagine that - stupid obama.


    The jury is out on trump's effectiveness in growing gdp. A longer base line will tell the tale

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    as soon as the rest of your republicans and a few more Dems are ready, you can reopen it.
     
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    Why not? worked for the tea party republicans throughout Obama's administration. Now we like the idea. We will help govern when we have a real voice and that will happen when we control part of the process.
     
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  14. The Mello Guy

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    In September 2013, Trump declared, "[P]roblems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president's the leader. And he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to lead. [Obama] doesn't do that. He doesn't like doing that. It's not his strength. And that's why you have this terrible situation.... It's very embarrassing worldwide."
     
  15. Checkerboard Strangler

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    And that's all you got...whining about how you don't like my post.
    Oh wow.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    There are two kinds of rightwingers involved in the fraud: perps and dupes. Pols like McConnell and Ryan are the perps, and true believers around here are typically dupes. Of course, there are principled conservatives who actually care about what happens to people.
    A small fraction of the dirt they have in mind for average folks.
    The trick, mehinks, is not getting too invested in fixing the problems the perps and dupes make worse.
     
  17. LangleyMan

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    So much for you caring what happens to kids needing health care, government workers who aren't paid, Dreamers, people who need government services, and so on. No rush ... so what if these folks fall into the cracks--right?

    As President Chaos says, the Democrats gave him (and you) a gift. Enjoy.
     
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    It's a continuing resolution, go try studying some government above the 6th grade level.

    So how was Bush supposed to veto the Democrats 2007 Budget.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    So you are more interested in insulting Republicans than finding solutions.

    Sorta like Schumer, Pelosi and Durbin.
     
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    I have tried to debate with you in a civil manor. But you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You just parrot something without knowing what your parroting.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/us/politics/20budget.html

    Since the republicans used all three in their tax bill, they cannot use reconciliation on the spending bill
     
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    I showed you EXACTLY how. The link I provided was a free site. Your ignorance is astounding. Just keep parroting things you have no idea about. You can have your own opinion, but you cannot have your own facts there Kelly-Ann. It is just a FACT, that Obama accounted for the deficits Bush created.

    Have a nice day
     
  22. Bluesguy

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    No you didn't you had two Senators with a summary of proposals which no one else would accept.
     
  23. Jonsa

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    brain cramp sorry.
     
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  24. Bluesguy

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    If there is something in your link that you think proves your point then POST IT. I gave you the OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE OMB NUMBERS. But it seems since you cannot refute what I posted you must engaged in your petty insults. The fact is the Republicans handed the Democrats a $161B deficit for FY2007. Two years later after increasing spending 9% for FY2008 and 18% for FY2009 the Democrats had the deficit to $1,400B and they kept it over $1,000B for the next three years.

    That's not opinion that is fact.
     
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  25. Bluesguy

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    It started ballooning under Democrats starting in 2007 for FY2008, before the recession. And that the Democrats failed to take measures to mitigate the effects of the slowdown which went into a recession almost a year later is one reason it was the worst recession since the depression and why it was the worst recovery in modern history. You act like the Democrats were just along for the ride. They took control of the Congress January of 2007 the recession didn't start till the following December. But there were warning signs of a slowdown, the economy had been on a roll for over 50 months. They did exactly the opposite of what needed to be done.
     

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