Congress hurtles toward shutdown

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  1. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should you caucus with them.
    Too many R-lites
    Fence sitting gets nothing done. R's and D's agreeing seem to result in a 20 trillion dollar debt.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    How did the 1996 supply side rate cuts crater tne economy? The 2001 ones? How are they cratering the economy now?
     
  3. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    :yawn:
    It's clear enough.
    How tedious. You quite obviously have no idea how or ehy Keynes arrived at his conclusion.
    An otherwise good business is one in 2008-2009 that failed because of Bush's incompetent management of the economy. Your wave-of-the-hand comment is a "tell" you've never been involved in building a business.
    You're perpetrating a fraud. We were talking about the Bush tax cuts.
     
  4. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Tax cuts impact demand, not supply. Get a clue.
    Okay. You do know and you're perpetrating a fraud. Have it your way.
     
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  5. LangleyMan

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    You didn't read the cite. Bush proposed a 2009 budget in early 2008.
     
  6. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    If only you could shut up Trumpites celebrating the shutdown as a chance to show up "Dems" and "libs."
    If you cared about those kids, you would have already passed CHIP. Instead, you're blackmailing Democrats with threats not to fund it.
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    IOW, you have no idea what you're talking about.
     
  8. Zorro

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    Democrats Give Up on Shutdown; Vote for Cloture on CR Passes, Setting Up Vote to Re-Open Government

    The CR will keep the government open just for two and a half weeks, until February 8th.
     
  9. dairyair

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    Because the mods deleted it.
    Bush wasn't in office in 09.
     
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    It's really a tax on consumption. Increases tax revenue without raising taxes. Wages may or may not keep up.
     
  11. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes I know.

    rahl claims he should have vetoed the Democrats 2009 budget which had a $1,400B deficit and now just changes my post by deleting the question when I ask him to explain how.

    What did you say about changing a post?
     
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  12. LangleyMan

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    Screaming Washington Times headline about how Democrats 'caved.' :yawn:

    Nice diversion from dealing with my point that Republicans would have already passed CHIP is they gave a damn about kids' health care.
     
  13. Zorro

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    A little inflation is a good thing because it precludes the possibility of deflation which causes an increase in real interest rates.
     
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  15. dairyair

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    I don't disagree.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    A Daily Wire "headline" and yet another diversion from my point about Trumpites not caring about kids' healthcare.
     
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    R's and D's haven't agreed on a budget for almost 2 decades.
    Hasn't affected the way the debt goes at all.
     
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    CNN Panics, Suggests Government Shutdown Will Leave Earth Vulnerable To ASTEROIDS.

    When most Americans woke up Saturday morning, they didn't notice much difference from when they went to bed Friday night, despite a government shutdown that took place starting at 12:01 a.m.

    CNN, however, certainly did, and by late Friday night, was already in a panic that civilization as we know it was about to come to a screeching halt. And since the "non-essential" government functions set to take a short break as Congress considered how best to fund them for the coming year, including NASA's asteroid monitoring service, CNN was absolutely convinced that civilization as we know it was about to come to an abrupt and violent end.
     
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    “Today is a terrible day. A terrible day for the millions of working families in this country. . . . A terrible day for millions of people who just want to get on with their lives and not have Congress cost them even more money.”
    ~ Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Lack of any rebutal noted along with your ignorance of my life's history.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    You didnt read tne cite it proved what i said. His proposal was dead on arrival. Again how was he supposed to veto the Democrats 2009 budget that was past?

    "Unlike last year [2008], when Bush forced Democrats to accept lower spending figures, this year could prove more difficult for the president. The fiscal year begins Oct. 1, less than four months before he leaves office.

    "He doesn't have us over a barrel this year, because either a President Clinton or a President Obama will have to deal with us next year," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. "We are not going to be held hostage to the unreasonableness of this president."

    Much of the president's plan has little chance of passage, lawmakers and budget experts say. Nearly $200 billion in Medicare and Medicaid savings need congressional approval, which Democrats are unlikely to provide. "Dead on arrival," vowed Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-03-bush-budget_N.htm
     
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  22. LangleyMan

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    You really should get your head out of the Angry Middle-Aged White Male Religious Traditionalist Rightwing Open Mouth Media Echo Chamber. Most voters don't care about this stuff. Democrats have their own echo chamber where they seem focused on Trump's sex life.
     
  23. LangleyMan

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    No, I read where you acted incredulous that Bush might be expected to approve a budget. In fact, the normal budget process would have had Bush approving a budget for 2009.
     
  24. LangleyMan

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    This had nothing to do with Inflation being a monetary phenomenon, something Milton Friedman established more than a half-century ago.
     
  25. LangleyMan

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    You may as well retire from the field. Your lack of knowledge of even basic economics is painfully obvious.
     

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