House Democrat Schiff says memo sets stage for firing of special counsel

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  1. icehole3

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    House Democrat says memo sets stage for firing of special counsel or Justice Dept No. 2
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top Democrat on the U.S. House of Representatives Intelligence Committee said on Wednesday a memo by the panel’s Republicans opens the door for the White House to fire the special counsel probing Russia’s alleged meddling in the U.S. election or the No. 2 official at the Justice Department.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...al-counsel-or-justice-dept-no-2-idUSKBN1FK2ZI
     
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    Where things are today appears to have been well thought out since sometime around April, May or June of 2017.

    Key strategists: Dan Coats (DNI), Admiral Rogers (NSA), Chairman Nunes (House Intel), Chairman Goodlatte (House Judiciary) and Chairman Grassley (Senate Judiciary); against the complimentary timeline of Inspector General Michael Horowitz and his year-long Justice Department investigation.

    None of this is random. All of this is sequential.

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    We almost completely know, almost to a certainty, that yes, the FBI used the Steele oppo dump as part of the FISA application. But we already knew that, based on a ****ing year of the FBI and DOJ refusing to answer congressional oversight committees about that.

    We know that Rod Rosenstein applied for, or authorized the application for, an extension of the FISA spying based on this dossier. He wasn't there when the FISA application was first sought and granted, but he was the guy who signed the motions for extension.

    And we know, or we pretty much nearly 100% know, that Rod Rosenstein knew all about the shady origins of this document he was relying on for surveillance orders, and knew this was essentially a Democrat/FusionGPS intelligence op from the start, but he kept seeking reauthorization anyway -- while meanwhile refusing to answer questions from the rightful, lawful oversight committees in Congress about his behavior and what the FBI and DOJ knew and when they knew it.

    So in a four page memo, we already pretty much nearly know three of the big revelations.

    Will there be more? Probably. But don't expect this to expose all aspects of Deep State operations -- remember, this is only about FISA abuses -- and evidence for these claims won't be in this brief memo.

    And speaking of Rod Rosenstein-- even Hillary Partisan Mike Morrell, former deputy director of the CIA, has regrets about "going political" against the president -- all those leaks caused Trump to quite justifiably distrust his intel people (and his DOJ people too, one presumes).

    CNN didn't tell you why Rosenstein was visiting Trump, or what Rosenstein had asked about to elicit the "are you on my side?" response.

    And it's a doozy: Rosenstein was visiting Trump to beg him to help him fight off Congressional document requests about Deep State operatives acting against Trump.

    The context was that Rosenstein shuffled over to the WH to ask for Trump's help in "fighting off" oversight from Rep. Devin Nunes and the House Intelligence Committee. Seems like a shifty request since it is HPSCI's job to provide this oversight. The DOJ/FBI have been notoriously uncooperative with the HPSCI. The media "reports" are curiously silent on the FBI/DOJ's resistance to having accountability. Rosenstein asked Trump to assist in obstructing oversight of DOJ.

    Now, consider this from Trump's perspective: He's faced nothing but illegal leaks from the DOJ and intelligence agencies, and he sees Congress trying to get to the bottom of this, sending questions and subpeonas to the DOJ to find out what they knew about, for example, the Steele dossier that Hillary Clinton commissioned.

    Rosenstein's asking him "Please help us continue to conceal how #TheResistance is fighting you."

    Trump at that point has a perfectly rational question: Who's side are you on, exactly?

    Because you sure seem to be on The Other Side, buddy.

    Funny how that didn't make it into the leak!

    "Of course, we're all on your team, Mr. President," Rosenstein told Trump according to CNN's leakers.
    Now, under oath in Congressional testimony Rosenstein said that "nobody has asked me to take a loyalty pledge, other than the oath of office," and that he had been given no untoward "orders."

    It didn't seem like Rosenstein himself thought he was being given a loyalty oath, contra CNN leak.

    Finally, speaking of Ron Rosenstein and his begging entreaties to not #ReleaseTheMemo: Andrew Napolitano recently noted that there are two main reasons intelligence and law enforcement agencies might attempt to keep information secret:

    1. The information may threaten national security by exposing sources and methods, and

    2. The information will embarrass the agency and damage the prospects of higher-ranking agency officials to get promoted.

    And Napolitano suggested that Reason Number Two was usually the most important reason in these fights.

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    Once the memo is released Mueller will have to call a quick end to his investigation, Congress will then hold an investigation on the FBI 'matter', the Inspector General will issue a scathing report and Michael Flynn will be exonerated and sue the government for millions.

    Next, hopefully, will be a thorough DOJ investigation going all the way back to Eric Holder, and then the IRS.

    It will be called, rightly the 'Scandal of the Century', and we can only hope that that the shake-up teaches all Swamp members a valuable lesson.

    The writers of the US Constitution showed tremendous foresight in creating the separation of powers and the necessary oversight from the people's representatives. They knew well about the human condition and made certain, as best they could, that corruption among the powerful could eventually be exposed but, I expect, they may have expected more from the media who are expected to "afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted". Will they heal themselves?
     
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    At least Gitmo is open for business.
     
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    Nobody cares.

    If it happens it happens.

    So what?
     
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    BZZZT Wrong!

    There is no justification for ending the investigation.

    Instead the FBI can just continue the investigation if Mueller can no longer remain as SC.

    Obstructing justice is a crime and if the Nunes memo attempts to obstruct justice then both he and the BLOTUS will be accountable.
     
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    FTR the FBI stated that Nunes memo is a load of fabrications.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/entry/release-the-memo-fbi_us_5a71fda6e4b05253b2750778

     
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    "Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman." - Louis Brandeis, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
     
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    Alt right disinformation is an infection, not a disinfectant!
     
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    Uncovering corruption = disinformation. Liberal logic 101.
     
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    Obstruction of justice disinformation = alt right illogic 101.
     
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    I know, transparency was all the rage for the left in the past, today not so much.
     
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    Lol. The left wanting transparency! I heard the Kenyan Skidmark talk a lot about transparency but like hope and change and keeping your doctor he just lied .
     
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    What is blatantly transparent is that only the gullible swallow the canards in the Nunes memo without questioning the veracity of those falsehoods.
     
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    Been listening to Schiff for brains?
     
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    Ironic given how the orange skidmark cannot tell the truth under any circumstances whatsoever.
     
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    Thank you for confirming that I was 100% correct again.
     
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    LOL, you determine you are correct by ignoring facts like you know what is in the memo by not reading it!
     
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    mr schiff for brains...is angry the truth will show the investigation was based on lies. No schiff mr. schiff...thats what is supposed to happen wben you break the law.
    And how well did Trump play this eh? He could have fired mueller before...but he waited, he waited until the entire nation could see what these leftist colluders have been up to. After this I'll be expecting criminal trials for every schiff head involved in this.
     
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    The leaks about the memo and Nune's abysmal sycophantic track record plus the refusal to allow both sides of the story expose that it is you who is ignoring the relevant facts.
     
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    You have a lot of ****ing audacity to claim anyone is a liar with the piece of **** potus you support.
     
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    The fact of lefty hysteria? Hard to miss.
     
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