The 'New' Democrat Party

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  1. Vet1966

    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read a very revealing article discussing the new Democrat Party - it was an eye opener:

    The article starts off stating: "Has the left any arrows remaining in their quiver? The 'new' Democrat Party, if it is new at all, is certainly not afraid to try anything to win favor or an election. It has become a freak show.".

    The article points out that today's Democrats are not interested cooperation or teamwork or compromise or give and take of any kind or any type of partnership resulting in good governance. They insist on running the show single handedly or fighting the opposition by every possible means.

    * They brawl against racism where none exists.
    * They ignore the plight of the American family while fighting for the fringe values of
    the gay and transgender groups.
    * They support Global Corporations, open borders and the "rights" of illegal aliens over
    the social and economic rights and needs of the working American Family
    * They fight for the rights of the criminal class while ignoring the needs of the innocent
    victims
    * They fight against the tenets of Christianity and Judaism while supporting Atheists and
    the worst kind of Muslim orthodoxy.
    * They refuse to work with the opposition to fix the worst parts of Obamacare and help to create a more realistic program that supports all levels while penalizing none.

    The left has turned society on its ear - everything that was good is now bad and everything that was bad is now good. To the left, normal is now suspect and the freakishly sublime is now normal.

    They lie with the ease and elegance of a Mary Shelley, never considering the impact and damage of the monster they have created.

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/whats-left-for-the-left
     
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    you ever consider that maybe everything you care about just sucks?
     
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    They've always been like this. It's just that as more information is readily available thanks to the internet, and the old school news media outlets are finding competition from new sources, they've been forced to dig their heels in even harder, thus exposing their true agenda.

    They have no argument, so all they can do is lie.
     
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    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Yup, the Alt and Far Right are dragging that

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    To be fair :

    - Racism as the belief that there are superior and inferior races is a view shared by a few percent of whites
    - Racism as institutional discrimination against minorities is a thoroughly debunked progressive hoax. The only institutional discrimination that has evidence to support it is called affirmative action and diversity policies.
    - White separatism (if it even is racism and not just a self defense mechanism) is rising and the progressives have only themselves to blame for this, since it's in reaction to their sick ideology ruining multiracial societies which puts separation as the only guaranteed solution.
     
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    ^^^ Such is the creed of white supremacists.
     
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    I'm a white supremacist, he's a white supremacist, everybody is a white supremacist.

    It's funny that you guys have turned "white supremacist" into such an endearing word. It's like being called a fuzzy kitten.
     
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    It is enduring to those embrace the doctrines of race from the 19th century, yes.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lets see what happens in the 2018 elections, then comment.
     
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    Polling Data
    Poll Date Sample Democrats (D) Republicans (R) Spread
    RCP Average 3/1 - 3/13 -- 45.7 37.8 Democrats +7.9
    Economist/YouGov 3/10 - 3/13 1291 RV 43 38 Democrats +5
    Reuters/Ipsos 3/9 - 3/13 1411 A 38 30 Democrats +8
    GWU/Battleground 3/4 - 3/8 1000 RV 49 40 Democrats +9
    Quinnipiac 3/3 - 3/5 1122 RV 48 38 Democrats +10
    Monmouth 3/2 - 3/5 708 RV 50 41 Democrats +9
    Rasmussen Reports 3/1 - 3/4 1000 LV 46 40 Democrats +6
     
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    Yes, yes, yes! Damn Ray Martin and those Martians!
     
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    I believe that the 'tea-party' GOP had their tactics right to win back seats that Obama brought along after his 2008 election. Lesson 1. Obstruct, delay and oppose. Repeat. Then criticize the majority party and the President for not getting anything done. Lesson 2. Attack, demean, and belittle the President at every opportunity. Impugn his character, undermine his legitimacy and chain every political triumph and every member of his team to a conspiracy of the 'left'. It won't work to convince most Americans but it will motivate the base and keep them in line.

    Trump makes these tactics even more effective for us, so I am glad we had these amazing political tutorials from 2008 to 2016.
     
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    All of this is a recipe for another Trump win in 2020. They just don't get it, America has had enough of their madness, they have been marginalized. America is on a very fast train to recovery, faster than anyone could have expected. When things are more stable we must become pro active and demand legislation that will undue the shambles the left has made of this country over the last fifty years. History repeats itself, what we are seeing now is a repeat of the 1960s which was the birthplace of all the crazy stuff we've endured all this time. We are now seeing the same type of pointless and divisive protests that characterized the late sixties but instead of a new movement we are seeing the same old rubbish of the past. This is a good indication that the left is in it's death throes, we should be kicking them while they are on ground and crushing them under our heels. We must make sure that this never happens again.
     
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    This is why the far and alt right will lose to the dems and pubs again.

    Both parties know racism exist.

    Both parties are committed to civil liberties, and most pubs believe in protecting gay and transgender populations.

    Most Americans and both parties support free markets.

    Both parties will not allow the alt right and far right to be a protected criminal class.

    Both parties recognize that Christians, Jews, atheists, and Muslims have the right to worship and to have civil protection in America.

    Both parties want ACA fixed.

    The alt right and far right love Richard Spencer, David Duke, et al.
     
  16. Vet1966

    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Both parties know racism exist.

    Racism does exist - in the twisted minds of the left wingers who see racist conspiracies around every corner while ignoring the actual racism their own policies have created and support

    Both parties are committed to civil liberties, and most pubs believe in protecting gay and transgender populations.

    No! Right wingers like myself just don't care about some other persons sexual fantasies - I don't see why gays need any kind of support from the government other than to see that they are provided with the same protections and support that everyone else has. IMO, transgenderism is a mental illness and an aberation no different than any other psychosis.

    Most Americans and both parties support free markets.
    What free markets? The trade imbalance is penalizing the USA to the tune of nearly a trillion dollars a year. What is free about trade that see our wealth shipped to our competitors while our own workers are being laid off. Global corporations who own all of the means of communication don't want to see the USA as anything other than a consumer nation, incapable of any kind of competition in the world market.

    Both parties will not allow the alt right and far right to be a protected criminal class.
    Aah, I see. The fringe left such as antifa, BLM and the congressional leadership are perfectly fine, but Trump supporters are criminals.

    Both parties recognize that Christians, Jews, atheists, and Muslims have the right to worship and to have civil protection in America.
    Not true! The Democrat leadership through their own actions or inactions have shown time after time that they don't care for the tenets of Christianity and Judaism while they actively support atheists and extreme Muslim orthodoxy. All one need do is look at what the Democrat leadership such as Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Maxine Waters do, as opposed to what they say.

    Both parties want ACA fixed.
    Wrong! The right wing wants ACA gone or modified in such a way that it works for all Americans and not for illegal aliens.

    The alt right and far right love Richard Spencer, David Duke, et al
    I'm not sure what you mean when you say "alt-Right" and "far right". In my world, the right wing is about supporting traditional American and family values. About having the right mix of socialism and capitalism so that businesses and workers thrive, while the less fortunate have a process that helps them get back on their feet to partake in a process that works for everyone.

    The one thing I take away from your post is the fact that the left wing is a shambles that has no clue what they are about. I see not one word about the economy or American families or the needs of workers, or how we need to support the less fortunate. I see the usual labels of "racist" and "homophobe" and all of the BS that goes with it. I see a bleak future for America if people who think like this get more power than they already have.
     
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    Both parties know racism exist. This is a fact, and the Alt Right want to rewrite the rules on how to deal with it: not going to happen.

    Both parties are committed to civil liberties, and most pubs believe in protecting gay and transgender populations. The Alt Right does not speak at all for the entire conservative movement. All protected minorities, included racial and sexual populations, need government support from the predators from the Alt Right.

    Most Americans and both parties support free markets. The weird far right yaps about NWO and globalism etc, but most of it holds almost no weight.

    Both parties will not allow the alt right and far right to be a protected criminal class. The Alt Right wants to attack with impunity the following, antifa, BLM, the KKK, the Jews, people who don't look like the Alt Right.

    Both parties recognize that Christians, Jews, atheists, and Muslims have the right to worship and to have civil protection in America. Most of the Dems follow Christianity and Judaism, all Dems believe in civil liberties protection for all.

    Both parties want ACA fixed so that is better and cheaper and for all Americans.
    Any rebuttal is not based on factual truth.

    The alt right and far right love Richard Spencer, David Duke, et al. The Alt Right wants to return America to the 1950s, which will not happen.

    It is obvious that Alt Right has no coherent program for America other than hateful propaganda.
     
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    Ever bother to Consider the fact they nothing you believe in is based in reality?
     
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    It is obvious you don't know what yu are talking about.
     
  20. JakeStarkey

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    ^^^^ ?????
     
  21. Vet1966

    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What the hell is the "alt-right"?
    I love the way you people dredge up some misnomer based on a fabrication concieved in the depths of your psychotic imaginations. You find yourselves unable to cope when facing the tenets of a superior ideology, so you turn to labels that make absolutely no sense, based on a logic that is foul and fowl.

    You can't stand the fact that the ideology I love stands for truth, justice and the American way.
     
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    I love the way the Alt Right tries to dodge the truth and then slips and falls in their own mud of antiAmericanism.
     
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    The new left are commies.

    Staight outta moscow.
     
  24. JakeStarkey

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    Well, of course. :)

    But it is Moscow supporting Trump.
     

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