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Arthur Jones? This should end the debate in Nazis being left or right.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Kode, Mar 21, 2018.

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  1. GoogleMurrayBookchin

    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    Okay, fine, whatever, I'll concede that if you completely ignore all historical precedent for modeling the political spectrum then you can draw one where nazism is on the left, since that's the best you can possibly offer and it has no bearing on anything.
     
    GoogleMurrayBookchin, Mar 21, 2018
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  2. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    You might want to get a bit more acquainted with the association fallacy. It's like if I say "I saw a fat American, so all Americans are fat".

    It's pretty much the laziest and stupidest fallacies to run afoul of, but you managed anyway.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you're saying a tyrant, can be a nice sweet guy?

    LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    a benevolent King can have a bad dream one night and the next day decide to be a sadistic evil mass-murderer and there'd be nothing we can do about it
     
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  5. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck .........
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Mahler

    Meet Horst Mahler, a former far left communist who turned into a Neo-Nazi.

    Therefore Nazism is left wing. The debate is settled.

    ^ The OP's logic in a nutshell. What a silly thread.
     
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  7. Polydectes

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    The Nazis were socialist, are you saying that socialism isn't left?
     
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  8. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    Well okay, you don't like logic.

    Good luck with that!
     
    Belch, Mar 21, 2018
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  9. GoogleMurrayBookchin

    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    "The nazis were socialist" is a sentence that only makes sense if your education has been completely poisoned by America's godawful school system.
     
    GoogleMurrayBookchin, Mar 21, 2018
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  10. Belch

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    okay, just forget what nazi means (national socialist) and say something that has nothing to do with anything.

    You lefties really are as easy as target practice using fish in a barrel.
     
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    No I'm saying calling any King, even a benevolent one, a tyrant could be a result of our conditioning.

    For example they called Gaddafi a tyrant but under him they had order and safety and more Prosperity than they have now. Right now Libya has Isis. For Libya the word tyrant is a useless word.

    Same for Iraq and would have been the same for Syria but thankfully Russia stopped the globalists from terrorizing that country too.
     
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  12. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    You have none. Your "logic" doesn't apply.
     
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    Under a democracy a voting population could get subjected to intense propaganda by the media and become convinced to vote for a sadistic, evil mass murderer like they did last election for Hillary Clinton. Thankfully they weren't successful.
     
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    Belch Well-Known Member

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    because...

    a word you lefties don't really have in your vocabulary, I've noticed.

    Is this linguistic black hole endemic to the species? I am inclined to think it is. To think otherwise is to assume that you guys have all the intellectual honesty of a clam.
     
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  15. Bluesguy

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    Yes it is, the Republicans do not partake in that primary they are guarantied to lose. Anyone can file a form saying they are running as a Republican, there is no Republican party approval or screening. Guy took advantage of a glitch in the system. Do you believe a political party should have a legal right to deny someone from running in their primary?
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think the point of the article was that he won without any Republican support because the Republicans don't run a candidate there. The were almost 100,000 votes cast in the Democrat side. There were only 20,000 cast on the Republican side and those were probably the ones who had no idea who was running and just voted the Republican ballot.
     
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    Would you like to address THE POINT of my OP?
     
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    The most communist leaning major candidate we have ever had and he ran on the Democrat side.
     
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    Or it could gave gone the opposit way and gone to fascism.
     
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    He is not remotely the most communist individual. Its just in this very conservative era anyone to the left of center is seen as extreme. In the thirties and forties real communist got votes running for President.

    Sanders is not nearly as extreme as Lyndon Johnson for that matter.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I wasn't indoctrinated and some socialist propaganda s*******
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Socialism in the form of Soviet Communism confiscates resources and gives the control to Commisars never tonthe people.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    The most NAZI leaning candidate that ever ran and won the office was innaugeration in Jan 2017 in Washington, DC.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Mar 21, 2018
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  24. Russell Hellein

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    Quick who said this.

    Its amazing how ignorant some our of history, Hitler saw his primary mission in life as destroying communism. He had not a single ally on the left
     
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  25. Bluesguy

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    I think I did.
     
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