Arthur Jones? This should end the debate in Nazis being left or right.

I wouldn't even call that word salad.

That's just uninformed blather

 

Total FAIL.

There are many "progressives" in the GOP - Mark Kirk, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake, Thad Cochran. And more.

Fascism's roots are in socialism. Just look at the Nazi Party 25 Point Plan http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm
and tell me which party it reminds you of - which party wants "social justice", govt run education, govt provided retirement, corporate profit sharing with employees, a living wage, govt run health care.

The socialists promote globalism, the Nazi's tailored socialism for a specific nation. The Nazi's deliberately co-opted socialism.

 

No surprise in ultra-left type of like yourself would pretend to be illiterate when truth is being stated.

 

I'm begrudgingly admitting that RiseAgainst is right for once. The mainstream republicans are loathsome, but they're not quite fascists. It doesn't do anybody favors to obscure the true nature of the political spectrum.

 

Now you're going to claim that Nazis wanted "Social Justice" just because they claimed to once?

And by the way...every functioning nation on earth has government run education

 

Not the point. No one is saying that the GOP is a Nazi party...but those kinds of people certainly are attracted to it.

 

Oh yeah, it's undoubtable that the nazis were right wing and neonazis are still right wing when you look at the actual ideology. After the Night of Long Knives purged the Strasserists from the NSDAP, only Hitler's faction remained, which promoted the concepts of class collaboration, nationalist restoration, militarism, and racism.

 

You cannot erase history. The Nazi's were definitely from the left. All writings from the first 50 years of the 20th century agree on that fact.

Many nations have a govt education system, but its not required. My kids and many others don't go to a govt run school.

 

Their ideology is left. The entirety of their organization is identity politics, similar to feminists and BLM and lgbt, and so on. They're just a different flavor of the same thing. Sjws

 

"people having opinions about identities" is not a specific or meaningful enough categorization to define the entire political spectrum by

 

I'm going by what I see. The left is all about identity politics that's pretty much the total of its platform right now. Any white supremacist is all about identity politics that is the total of the white supremacist platform.

They are absolutely left.

 

Some of the West’s best periods were under the rule of kings, so I don’t think that’s the problem.

But you’re right in that it’s not really left and right. The core of this is globalism versus nationalism.

 

You're treating the left like a monolithic entity instead of a broad category of ideologies sharing a few common features.

 

That may be true but I would not want to live under a king.

 

The left seems to be making itself more and more monolithic.
Pandolfi identity groups share the exact same ideology just switch the nouns.

 

CP's in power purge the Left, and then purge them again. Most of the Founding Fathers of the USSR were executed after show trials orchestrated by state prosecutors long before the armies of Nazi Germany and the Communist USSR embraced each other in the middle of Poland.

 

That he wouldn't have had a chance against a mainstream Republican because Republicans aren't racists?

OK, I saw your clearly stated point, Kode, but your average conservative wants nothing to do with these KKK dipshits. Similarly, liberals are not represented by the antifa dipshits. Which reminds me .... What ever happened to those losers? Haven't heard much from them since Portland (who???) finally got sick of their bs. Remember this?



Portlanders cheering their police at the end.

Citizens of Portland - 1
Dipshits - 0

 

What if he's a benevolent King who's a nationalist at heart and looks after his people. Look at what we have now those of us on the right are terrified of what comes after Trump. We have a broken system.

 

A tyrant still a tyrant no matter how much you agree with him

 

Yeah okay but maybe that Tyrant word is just one of the many things that we've been brainwashed since our youth to automatically associate with evil.

I'm not saying that's what I believe but could be possible just throwing that out there.

 

No other Republican candidate ran because they knew, even if they won the primary, it would be hopeless for a Republican to think they had a chance to win the election in that district.

 

I personally think that is the least likely of all things to be the case.

 

No matter. Irrelevant actually. The point is that Jones didn't choose to run as a Democrat or an Independent. He specifically chose to run as a Republican and the GOP, which we know holds very tight control over their party, apparently allowed him to run. They accepted him. So he didn't side with the left, or even the center. He sided with the right and the right accepted him, and he sided with the right because their ideology is most like his or he would have made a different choice. And "conservatives"? Conservatives are few and far between today, -the Republican Party having been taken over by far right Tea Party extremists with very extreme views and all the necessary ignorance to back them up.

So fascists (Nazis) are not of the left. They are of the extreme right and run with them.

You're a conservative independent. It must be getting lonely there.

 

the Nazis drew the bulk of their support in Europe from the right and were primarily opposed by the left. That is not really pertinent to the US situation one way or the other.

 

It is at times.

I believe anyone can run for office by filing the paperwork with their state, and the Party can't stop you.

The extremes on the left and right are like each other ...