Californians fed up with housing costs and taxes are fleeing state in big numbers

PARTIZAN1 · Apr 18, 2018

webrockk said: ↑

yes. wonder why? (he asks, rhetorically)
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Most obvious reasons are market driven which in turn are affected by availability in raw numbers of availibity , type, population density, zoning laws setting high minimums is square footage of building and lot size.
Also the old market force of DEMAND.

God & Country · Apr 18, 2018

Steady Pie said: ↑

This is disastrous. They will migrate into good states and turn them bad.
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Have seen that happen here in the northeast. The crazoids from Massachusetts have spread their cancerous politics to heretofore conservative fortresses like Maine and New Hampshire. Wealthy New Yorkers are buying up everything they can get their hands on.

Steady Pie · Apr 18, 2018

God & Country said: ↑

Have seen that happen here in the northeast. The crazoids from Massachusetts have spread their cancerous politics to heretofore conservative fortresses like Maine and New Hampshire. Wealthy New Yorkers are buying up everything they can get their hands on.
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Damn Massholes.

JIMV · Apr 20, 2018

jack4freedom said: ↑

Whining losers have been leaving here with their tails between their legs for decades. Fortunately, being one of the ultimate garden spots on this earth, talented, innovative people continue to stream in from around the world bringing new ideas and enriching our culture. Believe me, every time ten bitchy little losers head back to wherever they came from, twenty bold innovators cruise into one of our ports, across the Donner pass or across the mighty Colorado into our state....Good riddance to all of these degenerate losers....Don't let the Colorado River hit your assets on the way out!!!!
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You are getting the poorly educated in exchange for the well to do upper middle class...Go for it

Space_Time · Jun 11, 2018

Inevitable:

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/01/18/numbers-bust-the-myth-theres-no-great-exodus-from-california/

Numbers bust the myth: There’s no great exodus from California
When you account for California's largest-in-nation population (38.7 million in 2015), the out-migration figure – calculated by taking moves to California from other states then subtracting moves out – you find the net departures equal a barely perceptible 3 folks leaving us per 1,000 residents.

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By JONATHAN LANSNER | jlansner@scng.com | Orange County Register
January 18, 2017 at 1:45 pm
The mocking image of Californians fleeing for other states is simply wrong.

Snippets of demographic data have been used to suggest that California policy – among other things such as high taxes and regulation – are nudging huge numbers of residents to exit the state.

Look, no place is perfect, and California has its faults, notably a high cost of living and steep educational and professional requirements for many of its fast-growing professions. But while seeking insight into recent population trends, my trusty spreadsheet showed me California is pretty popular with its residents – but not so much with folks from elsewhere.

We often forget how big California is and how many people live here – far more than any state. So, numerous state-by-state rankings of economic or demographic patterns will likely have California at or near the top, for good or bad, just based on its sheer size.

To me, watching trends on a per-capita basis – leveling the population playing field – helps to better see trends. So when the Census Bureau recently reported California had a “negative out-migration” to other states – 129,233 in 2015, largest since the recession ended and second largest in the nation – it was time for the state’s critics to say “I told you so” and warn that we may be scaring off our best and brightest.

But when you account for California’s largest-in-nation population (38.7 million in 2015), the out-migration figure – calculated by taking moves to California from other states then subtracting moves out – you find the net departures equal a barely perceptible 3 folks leaving us per 1,000 residents. (And by the way, 14 states performed worse.)

Some who’ve seen me use this per-capita number have called me callous to the challenges of California living. Others tell me anecdotal evidence of people who fled the state.

In return, I’ve dug deeper to learn that indeed departures are a relative rarity when you apply a national context to the trends. That’s a fair benchmark in my eyes since you frequently hear about folks and business rushing off to other purportedly “cheaper” or “friendlier” states.
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